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    Yeah, as someone on Mateus I'm aware of the FC that consists of two people that own half a whole deal in Goblet, but reading up on that, they purchased all their plots waaaay long ago when Mateus was considered a super unpopulated server.

    I see what you mean on lottery now, and it would be shitty to enforce that on servers that don't have that problem, I see that now and didn't think beforehand, my apologies. Multiple accounts is a problem too, though that's gotta cost a heck ton to those with multiple accounts, which kudos to them I guess <u>; As much as it could be easy to add more housing to fit the demand, that would also mean adding housing to servers that don't need it and keeping underpopulated places underpopulated, while overpopulated vice versa.

    But at this point, where do we go from here? Should different worlds have different rules based on population? How can SE ease this? Even after the possible additions of the Ishgard housing, what's to stop this issue from repeating when the population inevitably swells again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin_Azure View Post
    Yeah, as someone on Mateus I'm aware of the FC that consists of two people that own half a whole deal in Goblet, but reading up on that, they purchased all their plots waaaay long ago when Mateus was considered a super unpopulated server.

    I see what you mean on lottery now, and it would be shitty to enforce that on servers that don't have that problem, I see that now and didn't think beforehand, my apologies.
    Quite alright. I'm just glad that you see now that lottery isn't a fix, and that it can actually disrupt things on servers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Levin_Azure View Post
    Multiple accounts is a problem too, though that's gotta cost a heck ton to those with multiple accounts, which kudos to them I guess <u>; As much as it could be easy to add more housing to fit the demand, that would also mean adding housing to servers that don't need it and keeping underpopulated places underpopulated, while overpopulated vice versa.

    But at this point, where do we go from here? Should different worlds have different rules based on population? How can SE ease this? Even after the possible additions of the Ishgard housing, what's to stop this issue from repeating when the population inevitably swells again?
    I think that if SE were interested in having different housing systems catered to each server we would have seen something like that by now. It would actually cost too much time and money to do it anyway because every server is different and their situations can change. What might be a great solution one year could end up being detrimental as the server's population changes. Such a system would need constant monitoring.

    World visiting is obviously intended to more evenly spread out the player population in the data centres and a side effect of this would be less competition for housing on highly populated servers, and long time empty plots finally being bought on quiet servers. Without adding any houses SE will be increasing the amount of players who have access to houses. Servers get bloated because something draws players there, and they become disinclined to leave even if it means never getting a house. With world visiting they can change their home server, get a house and still visit any server on the same data centre. It will be the best of both worlds for a huge amount of players.

    World visiting is an example of a change that can positively affect the housing system to any server regardless of population size. I am inclined to think that these are the sort of changes SE are interested in. It does make sense for them to want to introduce features and systems that can positively affect any player and not just some. It makes the benefits far more uniform, which in turn means it's cheaper to develop and easier to maintain.

    It will be interesting to see how Ishgard housing is done. Well it's not confirmed but SE strongly hinted at it. I hope they will surprise us with a non-traditional ward system. For example all plot sizes be the same but you choose the size house to build. Not all plots being equal is another of the many issues with the current system.
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    It would definitely be nice to have a large house in the future, but I've written that off as a fever dream at the rate I manage to save gil, haha! If we could build our houses up in a manner, that'd be superb, though of course they'd have to do some landscaping changes for the current housing areas.

    I don't know terribly much on the raw details of world visiting yet, but I wasn't sure if we would still have our primary worlds, and if it'd cost anything to change primary worlds within the same data center. [If there's a list of said raw details, a point in that direction would be greatly appreciated <3]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levin_Azure View Post
    I don't know terribly much on the raw details of world visiting yet, but I wasn't sure if we would still have our primary worlds, and if it'd cost anything to change primary worlds within the same data center. [If there's a list of said raw details, a point in that direction would be greatly appreciated <3]
    There is no exact date for world visiting but we do know it will be before 5.0. So it's going to be in a few weeks or months.

    From what I recall world visiting will be pretty simple. You go to a main aetheryte in a capital city and from there you can choose a server on your data centre to visit. You can use the market board on other servers but you can buy houses only on your home server. What this means for someone like you is that you can leave Mateus to get a house but you can still visit that server to interact with any friends you have that stayed there.

    If you look at your top right of your ui there should be a little house icon and your server name near the mini map (assuming you did not move these elements). That is something added pretty recently to the ui, and it's there to indicate what server you're currently on. When you visit another server the name will change to that server.

    SE have said that when world visiting is introduced there will be free server transfers. If you are thinking about leaving your server to get a house I suggest you start planning now.

    Even though your chances of getting a house will rise you obviously would be one of a large number of players who will move to find a plot. There's still a chance you'll find no empty plots. Make some alts on other servers, have a look at what's available, how much and where. Make sure you have enough gil to buy any class of plot of your desired size so that you won't miss a chance because you lack a bit of gil. If you go to the Land Pricing tab in this link you can see the prices of each class of plot for each size.

    Along with world visiting the data centres will be split differently. Below shows the data centres after the split. World visiting does not allow you to visit worlds on another data centre. So if you're changing server choose carefully so you don't end up separated from friends on other servers. The data centre names in the red boxes indicate new data centres that will be created with the split.



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