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  1. #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Wow you have 2 move 2 inchs in order to dodge a red mark and just spam combos that requires to much thinking for you or not get hate before thank goes in... if thats the case just quit lol...
    Or, instead of quitting, I can continue playing as DPS and hope for interesting jobs for DPS, if they want to, while being ok if those interesting jobs end up being tank/healer instead.
    Also that is different do you know how many jobs dps have 2 choice from there's pretty much a job for all types in dps.

    Yet healer has barrier with pet or regen or card 3 options only.

    As 4 tanks the only non booring one they got is drk
    Honestly, that's irrelevant. If you're not interested in certain types of roles/subroles/jobs, it doesn't matter how many choices exist. And since FFXIV is a game that lets you play all jobs in one character, they're all choices for everyone, but like I said, that's irrelevant.
    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    No I don't, do you know why?

    Cause I can play all 3 roles. Yes I have a main class/role but I always have a class ready for whatever is needed. Right now I main Black Mage but play Warrior and Astro as well. Hell I spend more time on my alts sometimes since I run roulettes as them.
    You play all three roles? That's great, you have nothing to worry about. I don't, so while I won't be jealous of healers if they get dancer because I have no attachment to any particular job, I'd still want it as DPS.
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    Gwenorai's Avatar
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    I really wish they would just give each class more than just one skill tree. ESO/SWTOR both have classes which can have different skill trees. Example; Assassin in SWTOR could be DPS or Tank.
    A sorcerer could be Healer or DPS.
    As for ESO, any class can be a healer/tank/dps

    The number of times I've wanted Warrior to have a DPS tree! Or DRK for that matter! But it will never happen ;3;

    Ah well, while I think the next class is indeed a healer for the 'balance' I can see why others would want Dancer to be a DPs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I really wish they would just give each class more than just one skill tree. ESO/SWTOR both have classes which can have different skill trees. Example; Assassin in SWTOR could be DPS or Tank.
    A sorcerer could be Healer or DPS.
    As for ESO, any class can be a healer/tank/dps

    The number of times I've wanted Warrior to have a DPS tree! Or DRK for that matter! But it will never happen ;3;

    Ah well, while I think the next class is indeed a healer for the 'balance' I can see why others would want Dancer to be a DPs.
    So, I think the reason behind that is because FFXIV allows your character to learn all jobs. I don't play much of ESO, but SWTOR and WoW limit your character in terms of changing classes, so it's necessary for them to allow some flexibility in role in their classes.
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    You DPS mains act like playing a tank or healer is going to a foreign country. Honestly, playing a tank isn't some crazy high responsibility role you might be thinking it is. You're just a melee DPS who goes in first. Same with healer which is doing DPS more often than its healing. If you say its boring, then isn't that just more of a case for necessitating a new more interesting tank and healer to play?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DevonEllwood View Post
    I'm pretty sure I won't be the only one disappointed if the male one isn't as scantily clad as the female gear. If it's not, then I'll find a way.
    Nope. Male needs to be dressed in a Chippendales uniform... >.>

    On the topic of making dancer a healer that deals damage to heal. I feel like that would break healer balance with the player base due to how focused so many people are on dps and parsers.

    On the topic of job diversity. If you choose not to play certain jobs that's your choice to limit your options. If you limit your options this way then complain about not having options you have only yourself to blame.

    Me personally...

    I'd like a Mascot healer that wears costumes like the moogle and tonberry suits and used plushies as their class weapon... but that's just me I guess... Bonus points if it was a ranged caster weapon that hopped out of your arms to run up and smack the monster before running back...
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    As if you don't do that? Or anyone else? A tank main would want interesting jobs to be tank, and healer main would want interesting jobs to be a healer.
    I don't think so. I've never seen a tank say they want Dancer to be a tank. Nor a tank or healer say it about Rogue or RDM. There was some talk about SAM being tank, but that's because they had originally considered the concept before settling on DPS.

    There is a disproportionate number of DPS that want every new job to be DPS.
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    Last edited by Kaedan; 02-09-2019 at 02:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    I don't think so. I've never seen a tank or healer say they want Dancer to be a tank or healer.
    If that's true, then there's no problem. I do expect the next job would be a healer, whether it's dancer or something else. If it is dancer, then too bad for the people who want it to be DPS (like me), and that's ok. If somehow dancer is real but is DPS (and healer may or may not get something else), then that's fine as well.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    On the topic of making dancer a healer that deals damage to heal. I feel like that would break healer balance with the player base due to how focused so many people are on dps and parsers.
    Scholar fairies provide passive and free healing which also targets the person who needs it the most. I feel like having more of these "smart heals" would help give a new healer its own flavor (as well as having heal-shields that heal the shielded person when damage is taken). Dancer could passively heal the lowest HP target when doing dps, and if the passive heal potency was similar to the fairies' then I think balance wouldn't be an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I really wish they would just give each class more than just one skill tree. ESO/SWTOR both have classes which can have different skill trees. Example; Assassin in SWTOR could be DPS or Tank.
    A sorcerer could be Healer or DPS.
    As for ESO, any class can be a healer/tank/dps

    The number of times I've wanted Warrior to have a DPS tree! Or DRK for that matter! But it will never happen ;3;

    Ah well, while I think the next class is indeed a healer for the 'balance' I can see why others would want Dancer to be a DPs.
    It does not work well in ESO.
    Because of this illusion of freedom of choice you have a lot of abilities that are useless and no one use them at all and most of people just use the few same active skills and a ton of buffing and debuffing skills on top of it. This makes the combat in this game really boring and stale and seems like everyone uses the same build, especially stamina based characters they all use the same skills.
    ESO would be the last mmorpg i will take any class based things from, zenimax struggle to change it and doesnt even bother to try. FFXIV classes has more depth in them than any class in eso does, sure you could do many things on one character, but you cant really change a lot once you make it and lvl it up, the choices are super limited and you cant change your class spec on the fly due to the equipment and stats you have chosen. Also not all classes could do everything, templar for example was useless as on stamina build and only playable as a healer or magicka damage dealer with 2 skills you use all the time, at the time i played the game.
    Once you get into expert dungeons in eso, you are going to find out how useless your own character truly is and there are meta builds you have to follow in order to be useful, most of them limits your number of active skills that deals damage to bare minimum and force you to use a rotation of dozens of dots/buffs/debuffs all the time. Imagine playing a blackmage and having only fire 1 spell available and like 10 dots and buffs and debuffs to throw before you even try to use the fire spell, this is what i call a class design disaster.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 02-09-2019 at 04:48 PM.

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    Lancer Lv 100
    They need another job to share equipment with DRG , cause equipment balance... Unless gunbreaker is a STR tank... That would be interesting. Then they need another dex Melee class to share with NIN
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