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    Anselmet's Avatar
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    Laurent Vestra
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    Zalera
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    Unpopular opinion here :

    We don't need a new healer. AST and SCH cover everything healing has to offer in FFXIV. And WHM is off that, but they promised a re-work. Anyway, if they want to keep healing as Shield vs Regen and soft buffs to the party, AST SCH and a topped up WHM would be enough.
    Just like past a certain point, we won't need new jobs outside of the novelty of playing something else, because what we have covers what we need.
    However, if they were to change the gameplay, maybe it would give more room to new jobs... or just to rework current jobs.

    I feel that right now, any new job is just for the sake of it. Yet it's new content, so we give it a try regardless. I'm worried that too much jobs will eventually make it harder for them to feel original. While a tweak to the gameplay itself would open doors to these implementations.
    Honestly you only listed my reasons as to WHY we need a new healer class. A fourth healer is a chance to break up the dichotomy with the healers. Of course, this would mean that DNC would have to come in with something new other than shields and regens. If not, then it will be a like you said, "just adding a class for the sake of it".

    But that isn't necessarily bad if it does either shield and regens with a new flavor and not how ast was handled. But we shall see.
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    Mansion's Avatar
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    Honestly you only listed my reasons as to WHY we need a new healer class. A fourth healer is a chance to break up the dichotomy with the healers. Of course, this would mean that DNC would have to come in with something new other than shields and regens. If not, then it will be a like you said, "just adding a class for the sake of it".

    But that isn't necessarily bad if it does either shield and regens with a new flavor and not how ast was handled. But we shall see.
    Yes but that's my point actually: breaking the dichotomy regen vs. shield is beyond jobs, it's the whoel healing system that needs to change (and the fights need to reflect that too). Once this is done, you can have various ways of healing and thus various healing jobs. For now, it will be Regen or Shield or "Lulz I canz do both".

    They could also give all healers minimal shields and regens, then work on individual tweaks for job identity though.
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    Yes but that's my point actually: breaking the dichotomy regen vs. shield is beyond jobs, it's the whoel healing system that needs to change (and the fights need to reflect that too). Once this is done, you can have various ways of healing and thus various healing jobs. For now, it will be Regen or Shield or "Lulz I canz do both".

    They could also give all healers minimal shields and regens, then work on individual tweaks for job identity though.
    It's all about how you shield and heal, different journeys to the same destination.

    DPS jobs are just as simple in the end, you push buttons and the enemy HP bar goes down, that's all they do, all of them. But we get nine variations of it because different people find different methods of achieving that ultimately rather simple goal fun.
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