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    Shippuu's Avatar
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    Shippuu Nammuu
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Corue View Post
    Absolute toss. Comparing a job that's radically different to the current flow of gameplay to the gender of a race is nonsense.
    It really isnt. It's a design decision that came with more risks than gender locking a race ever could.

    BLU is BLU because people wanted a direct translation of it from XI.
    I could easily make the exact same statement to justify only getting female viera. Considering female viera is the only thing that's ever been shown in any final fantasy game. So by extension a "direct translation" from another game means that only female viera would be around.

    Since blue mage came out, we've seen more than enough people who would have preferred the job sacrificed a ton of its identity to be played as a normal job. The dev team decided to keep it true to it's roots, just as they could decide to keep viera true to it's past representations and make males nowhere to be seen.

    I fail to see how this is riskier than implementing a race but not only shafting about half the people who are interested in but giving them something completely unrelated to the race they wanted.
    Because a job is actual gameplay, while a race is purely cosmetic. One of those has a far greater impact on the game than the other (and it isn't the race). If races are so important, why was there no huge drop in subs when stormblood released with no new race? Were there huge movements to demand a new playable race come?

    Once again, since male viera have never been depicted, there's no saying that SE's version of them would be "what the players wanted." You already see plenty of complaints with the female viera we are getting for exactly that reason.

    There is not a single good reason as to why male Viera should be unplayable.
    There are plenty. You just choose to not accept any of them as valid.
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    Crushnight's Avatar
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    Jets Down
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
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    Far more work goes into the initial creation a new race than a new job you have get emotes/hair/facial features/environmental interaction/mounts/minions/food eating/every single currently existing piece of gear altered(- belts)/every single animation of all current and future jobs/DoL and DoH animations sorted/Any existing npc that may comment on your race or interact with your height altered/cutscenes adjusted/make sure enemies interact properly to the model.
    A new job has to go through checks of ability interactions with itself, other jobs and enemies/duty finder & party finder interactions/HoH & PotD interaction/PvP interaction/Euerka interaction/solo instance interactions.

    One has a lot more work needed to add it into the game than the other and the one that requires more is the cosmetic one which is why they don't add one every expansion because having to adjust everything from 1.0 items/gear to current expansion is way more work than just 2.0 battle content to current expansion battle content.
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    xbahax92's Avatar
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    Flan Vongola
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Shippuu View Post
    Because a job is actual gameplay, while a race is purely cosmetic. One of those has a far greater impact on the game than the other (and it isn't the race). If races are so important, why was there no huge drop in subs when stormblood released with no new race? Were there huge movements to demand a new playable race come?
    At the time there were a lot of requests if they'd add a new race or add more CC features though. I get your point about race and jobs. While I could imagine that people would be far more effected if SE would tell us 1/no job next expansion, people demand for variety. Variety because the current CC is very bland. You cant really customize your own character, build his own identity while someone else can just look like you (same face, same hair, same everything).
    A new race has the potential to give short,refreshing feeling to the CCreator, even if most of the players will run as bun girls the first week - until they change back to their older race.
    In any case, I dont really care if bun boys are bun boys. I just hope they wont look like Au Ra, thats my own preference. Ofcourse it would be nice to see the race fit to each other, but Viera are not a new race. I could imagine that the dev team is bound to Matsuno. If he envisions them as lionesque counterpart, we will have to accept it either way.
    But the whole "genderlocked" thing does not sound believeable to me. After all the petitions and support the community has gathered to get Viera/Bunny outfit/etc... We will have to wait and see.

    And you also have to accept peoples opinions rather shatter them down every time. I get your points, you are being on point with certain things. But statements that can be placed one or the other side, are not useful. This also applies to your arguments.
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