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    Concerning 1.20 and Job/Class Adjustment

    So, I finally get my internet back over the weekend to come online to what seems to be an almost empty game. Now I know it's close to the holidays and everyone is prepping up for those coming events, but realistically one can play this game while laying down, which I myself do at times. New patch and apparently population dropped to a low that hasn't been witnessed since before 1.19. I'm not a an expert but I would say that's definitely not good for business.

    The first issue I'd like to address is the damage output on a DD class.... Square Enix wtf.jpg? I have no idea why you would get rid of a good thing. Don't fix it if it isn't broken I believe is the term? Me personally on LNC went from an average 2.3-3k dps on Ifrit for instance to a whooping 1.4k... lolwut? Now I will give SE the benefit of a doubt and say they are prepping the what seem to be sub classes for the upcoming 1.21 when they are supposedly adding the what seem to be advanced classes. And who knows maybe the new fight system will be beneficial to those classes coming out and the combo system will create opportunities for more damage, more debuffs, and just an overall strong DD class, but as of now the system only seems to work for survive ability and just general fight control.

    Another issue I'm having with this patch is the removal of certain abilities that just made sense in an MMO environment. First off are the DD WS animations. Certain animations (not to be bias) like Doomspike II (which was one of the reasons I picked up the class) were removed. Now again they could be brought back to the later patch, but why take it away if it gave the class that much more identity. A lot of the self buffs for multiple classes were also taken out like Defender and Storm's Path, which I'm really hoping was just to prepare the game for the new classes which would ultimately unlock most of those abilities or get something close to them.

    Now I could go on but I believe if you read this post most of you (true gamers) will understand my despair. If you are coming out with better content for the new classes fine, if you aren't why take away what seemed to be the stepping stone to becoming a great MMO? I'm sure the game will develope as it goes along and all that mumbo jumbo, but like some people I like to live in the now, and I personaly don't understand why you would put a halt on releasing the newest classes along side of taking away the old classes identities in the process. SE why would you do that? People stopped playing the game, you guys are setting it up so that it isn't going to be a free to play game, and you're half assing the aesthetics of the game as well as watering down systems that weren't in my opinion broken.

    SE should be adding and adding every other patch until the game becomes unbalanced, and I really hope I'm wrong about the direction this game is taking now, because I'm one of those people who came back to the game after 1.19 unaware of the changes and was shocked to see how good the game became during my absence.
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    I will add one happy camper comment though. I'm liking the new UI and the way it turned out. A lot of new options to keep the casual player engaged and a few things for the hardcore player to do in their down time. The achievement system is boss simply put and the rewards are overall pretty good even for the minimal effort needed to complete some of them.
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    too bad lnc WAS broken
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    Please keep in mind that buffs don't work the same. You can only use native buffs and if you use other class's buffs, thy're not as effective.

    As for aesthetics, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you like/don't like the effects in teh game, wait until next patch...

    Your post appears to be a knee jerk reaction. Every patch has a learning curve and this learning curve is a little longer becuase of all the changes. Play it for a little longer and see what you think about it later.
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    I agree 100 percent with you. I dont like how they nerfed the DD classes and made THM so damn strong. They almost took all the aoe away as well. When the patch first came out and I tried killing a lvl 52 with my friend it took over a minute just to kill one. And the Ifrit fight.... They changed the whole battle system and just left Ifrit the same it was. With doomspike cooldown increased from 10 sec to 1 minute. That being said there is a lot of great stuff in the patch. I love the achievement system. But the battle system has taken a step backwards imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odysseuss View Post
    I agree 100 percent with you. I dont like how they nerfed the DD classes and made THM so damn strong.
    Wha....wai...wait....what?

    They nerfed DDs? No sir, your mistaken. Thats not what happened, you even contradict yourself in this statement. THM is a DD, and clearly you confess it was buffed. Not to mention archer abbsolutely was buffed, not nerfed.
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    I will admit it is a bit early for a final critic about the game, but I'm not just going on a whim here. It isn't about what I like or what I dislike, it's more so about how there seems to be no need for the current system to have taken place until the new classes were released. Unlike the casual player the "learning curve" isn't as steep for me (not to sound cocky), but it didn't take me more than a few hours to adjust to the new systems benefits and failures. Now I am speaking at an endgame level which I'm assuming SE takes as a joke, because none of the new content is difficult as most people want to rave about. And the repetition of loot sort of proves how blind SE is. Well materia kinda proves how blind they are, but that's a different subject. Either way it isn't long before the next update, so I'm more than happy to wait for the next patch, but from a business point of view by the time that patch roles around if SE shows no signs of bringing any of the good back, they would already have lost tons of customers.

    And if LNC "was" broken, then GLD "was" a tangible tank.
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    I wouldn't say DDs were nerfed, I would say the new battle system doesn't fit into the current endgame environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Wha....wai...wait....what?

    They nerfed DDs? No sir, your mistaken. Thats not what happened, you even contradict yourself in this statement. THM is a DD, and clearly you confess it was buffed. Not to mention archer abbsolutely was buffed, not nerfed.
    forgot to reply to this on my previous post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coglin View Post
    Wha....wai...wait....what?

    They nerfed DDs? No sir, your mistaken. Thats not what happened, you even contradict yourself in this statement. THM is a DD, and clearly you confess it was buffed. Not to mention archer abbsolutely was buffed, not nerfed.
    Yea sorry for my bad english. With DD i mean like melee. And besides from archer the rest got nerfed. The whole system dont make sense to me
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