Suggestion give Paladin raise/protect back in 5.0

[Kabooa]

I mean, PLD has Clemency, Holy Spirit, and "Divine Magic Mastery." You can have "white" spells without stepping on the healers toes. In 6.0 PLD might even get another "white" spell. I would not complain if PLD got raise though, the more raises available the better!

Also Protect is annoying. I've healed since 2.0 and in 4.0 I took a stand and stopped using it completely, it is useless from a design standpoint. Yoshi needs to remove it entirely not give it to PLD, or at least make it a tasty CD shield.

Trait upgrade Flash into Holy Explosion - Their AoE magic spell variant, where Shield Stance grants it bonus enmity and Sword Stance grants it faster cast time.

[Ekimmak]

Trait upgrade Flash into Holy Explosion - Their AoE magic spell variant, where Shield Stance grants it bonus enmity and Sword Stance grants it faster cast time.

Please don't.

Flash is an "on-the-move" spell where you don't have to think about aiming, you just get close to enemies and hit it for snap aggro.

Making that a spell with a cast time is going to absolutely warp high level play. Total Eclipse is *supposed* to be as good, but unless they trait flash to upgrade into that, I don't believe it.

[Kabooa]

Please don't.

Flash is an "on-the-move" spell where you don't have to think about aiming, you just get close to enemies and hit it for snap aggro.

Making that a spell with a cast time is going to absolutely warp high level play. Total Eclipse is *supposed* to be as good, but unless they trait flash to upgrade into that, I don't believe it.

Then keep it instant cast. Doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of things since it's still GCD locked.

[Ekimmak]

Then keep it instant cast. Doesn't make a difference in the grand scheme of things since it's still GCD locked.

I'm good with that. I just don't want to have people saying "you don't need it anymore, you have total eclipse".

I've had quite enough of those back when I had to create macros to shift around my hotbar to deal with a rotation's base attacks changing drastically in higher levels.

[Kabooa]

I'm good with that. I just don't want to have people saying "you don't need it anymore, you have total eclipse".

I've had quite enough of those back when I had to create macros to shift around my hotbar to deal with a rotation's base attacks changing drastically in higher levels.

Personally I would do a Flash -> Traits into Total Eclipse -> Traits into Holy Explosion. The removal of TP will allow for this.

Damageless AoE aggro -> Damageable AOE Aggro -> Damageable AoE Aggro that works with Reqqycat.

[Seraphor]

Protect should be made a WHM exclusive along with Shell.
WHM doesn't have enough in their toolkit as it is, and they could be made to interact with lilies or confession stacks, giving their job mechanics some needed depth.

[Derio]

Need to fix the skill bloat on PLD though. Protect I could do without, but I do think PLD needs to have a raise with a cooldown, but have the spellspeed on the raise to be like raise L in Eureka.

[Campi]

Protect and Raise were useless on PLD
nobody needs them back

Would like to see Goring Blade is working like Ninjas Shadow Fang
Appling Dot and Slashing Debuff

With Clemency, Veil, Passage i think PLD has enough white magic

[Bright-Flower]

I don't know that raise in particular would be a good idea, but I do like the idea of supporting the party with white magic in general.

[HyperiusUltima]

Protect and Raise were useless on PLD
nobody needs them back

Would like to see Goring Blade is working like Ninjas Shadow Fang
Appling Dot and Slashing Debuff

With Clemency, Veil, Passage i think PLD has enough white magic

Tbh Goring Blade is fine as is: there’s already an abundance of Slashing Down in WAR, NIN, and SAM.

As for PLD, they DO NOT NEED RAISE.
Complaints about it in 2.X being useless were already enough to keep it off hotbars. What PLD should only get for the time being are QoL buffs next expac.

If they add any more utility, then we’re going to run a huge issue with Tank Balance because of how Barrier Shields work.