YoRHa/NieR alliance raid 5.0

[Rowde]

Watch... The final boss fight in the third and final 5.0 Alliance Raid will become a rhythm game in which the entire alliance (Not party, alliance) wipes if even one person messes up.

The scary part is that there is precedence for this in this game!
We already have a quasi-DDR segment in Suzaku... not to mention Bullet Hell light segments in Byakko and during the MSQ solo Lakshmi fight.


I hope to see Pods featured in at least one boss with a bullet hell sequence, Hold down the Special Action button to use the Pods' fire to destroy some of the "bullets" to create safe gaps for the party to move through or everyone has to work together to destroy specific targets with Pod fire.

[InkstainedGwyn]

The scary part is that there is precedence for this in this game!
We already have a quasi-DDR segment in Suzaku... not to mention Bullet Hell light segments in Byakko and during the MSQ solo Lakshmi fight.


I hope to see Pods featured in at least one boss with a bullet hell sequence, Hold down the Special Action button to use the Pods' fire to destroy some of the "bullets" to create safe gaps for the party to move through or everyone has to work together to destroy specific targets with Pod fire.

Which already has precedent in O11N with the fists, so it definitely could happen!

[Dualblade]

I really got bored at that time but I know well enough to say one particular thing: it's set on earth, real earth, just a trillion years later (I forgot the exact date, I think it was 11k years later?).
Do you know what means? It means that Eorzea, a fantasy realm invented for the sake of this game, a fantasy world where it has its own rules, a fantasy world where there are different races, is going to be tied to our earth as a potential canon. Is this the first time that something like this happened? No: Drakengard 1 has an ending where you go to Tokyo - which leads to the Nier games - but it's not shoved up to our throats and it's actually well implied and explained. What are they going to say here? That humans got to Eorzean to escape the alien invasion and suddenly they forgot about earth?

My point with this is that Nier: Automata, a game world set in the real world, is going to be canon to Eorzea, a fake world, and as far as I know, "metagaming" references are pretty much disliked...so now suddenly they are? I don't care about the game's plot of both games but even I would think "it's pretty dumb". Why not make a crossover with kingdom hearts? It's all about world travels, it fits the world. Or even Dragon quest? Sure the style is incredibly different but it's another dimension we can buy it.

You assume that YoRHa in XIV and YoRHa from NieR will be the exact same organization rather than, you know, given a new origin specific for XIV that has nothing to do with Earth.

The Crystal Tower didn't suddenly make our world connected to the world of FFIII. Usage of the Void didn't make XIV connected to other FFs with their own Voids. Omega's appearance didn't connect to any other specific FF games and even had a rivarly with a different dragon than he usually had (Shinryu being the usual one though XIV's Shinryu was essentially inspired by Midgarsomr.) The closest we have to being connected to other FF games is VI when it comes to Sigmascape as they didn't really try to connect that to Hydaelyn lore, unlike Deltascape which does have justification in the lore without the world being connected to V. Even then if we somehow are connected to VI its so far in the past as to not matter now.

Also the Drakengard 1 E ending isn't well explained. The PC is just suddenly sent into the future as well as across continents, and after winning gets shot down by F-16s. Now NieR works very well of it and The Watchers certainly screw up so many things when it comes to known physics, but it still wasn't explained all that well.

On another note, I will be very sad if the a Pod isn't some sorta reward/drop from this set, its the perfect minion for us! Coulda even talked for us if minions actually did something beyond being little pets.

[Skeith9]

It means that Eorzea, a fantasy realm invented for the sake of this game, a fantasy world where it has its own rules, a fantasy world where there are different races, is going to be tied to our earth as a potential canon.

Since it's tied to all of FF already, it already is, say halito to Spirits Within.

Somebody shows to be a bigger white knight than they should be...I wonder why?

Yes, I am totally a white knight for defending developers when people complain about something that isn't even out. You can complain you don't like the development cycle of 3 raids across so and so patches and everything being predictable but that has nothing to do with this cross over. It's about the story and wether the fights are fun, which you guys DO NOT KNOW. I'm not white knighting, you are just being toxic.

Hunt System was and is still bad because:

Missed the point~~

I'm not complaining about content being new - not entirely at least.

You just proved my point. You complain about established content being repetitive and about new content not being polished. You are unappeasable unless Yoshi-P and the entire dev team become omnipotent gods!

[Alexandre_Noireau]

You clearly think all content is equal in value and quality.
And it's not. Take Eureka as an example. What quality is left there, or how interesting it would be, if you remove the relic from it. Yeah, but other content, holds on it's own without the need of cheap, lazy, inflatory content that just pretends to be content more than being properly engagin content.

Do not pass everything as "stablished content". Even the dungeons quality vary time to time.

[Dyvid]

Well since it's all about fandom, I'm a big fan of SE's Tomb Raider series and hope the 8-man raid is based on that series. Further more I hope we can purchase Donald and Goofy from the Kingdom Hearts series as trust companions and have a couple of dungeons base on Winnie the Pooh and Little Mermaid.

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[Bigmoose85]

As someone who hasn't played any of those games im disappointed to see more crossover nonsense. I guess they couldn't come up with original content for the 24-man.

[Genz]

Well since it's all about fandom, I'm a big fan of SE's Tomb Raider series and hope the 8-man raid is based on that series. Further more I hope we can purchase Donald and Goofy from the Kingdom Hearts series as trust companions and have a couple of dungeons base on Winnie the Pooh and Little Mermaid.

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Not sure they could take Disney stuff outside KH, but SE publish mangas, so we can have a Fullmetal Alchemist raid in 6.x !

[Alexandre_Noireau]

Not sure they could take Disney stuff outside KH, but SE publish mangas, so we can have a Fullmetal Alchemist raid in 6.x !

And this is the door to the realm of ridiculousness that is being open. Why i worry.

[SoleilAlphi]

the ridiculousness ship already sailed with Yokai /shrug