Red Mage Rumor Mill

[Kazrah]

If they did split scholar EXP-wise from arcanist, it's quite likely it would still require a Lv30 arcanist to unlock the job.

I doubt they would remove classes overall. It would require a huge amount of rewriting - you can't just take all the class quest scripts and change them to refer to the job name instead. Job quests often highlight the difference between class and job skills.

Actually, Yoshi brought up removing base classes some time ago. I think it had something to do with the claim that base classes were just a 1.0 leftover and it wasn't until they started work on the jobs for Heavensward that devs felt the base classes to be unnecessary (hence why future jobs no longer have them).

As for the original question, I wouldn't mind seeing Verraise removed just to see 1) how player preferences would shift, 2) the dev explanation for it (I might need popcorn for the player response), 3) what Red Mage would get both in exchange and going forward for that lack of utility and 4) the joy of not seeing five Red Mages in a DF group--seriously, I see this at least once every other week and it's just getting stupid.

[Iscah]

Actually, Yoshi brought up removing base classes some time ago. I think it had something to do with the claim that base classes were just a 1.0 leftover and it wasn't until they started work on the jobs for Heavensward that devs felt the base classes to be unnecessary (hence why future jobs no longer have them).

Depends whether it's something they're seriously looking at, or just a "thought bubble" that would need to be popped as soon as he (or other team members) looked at what it would actually involve to do that.

[Jandor]

Depends whether it's something they're seriously looking at, or just a "thought bubble" that would need to be popped as soon as he (or other team members) looked at what it would actually involve to do that.

Probably the thought bubble one, unless I've missed it Yoshi has only mentioned removing classes once, a long long time ago, in a "maybe but it won't be before 5.0 at the earliest" sort of way.

There just isn't any real need to remove them, Scholar and Summoner are both fine and sharing Arcanist doesn't have any real impact on them, and if the XP sharing does upset the devs that much making one of the jobs an 'advanced job' would be much easier than stripping out classes.

[Maero]

@Kurando
Well Red Mage is in a much better spot now however i would say some minor changes could still be done but we certainly do not need dot damage like what Lium (and others) have said.

[Iscah]

Probably the thought bubble one, unless I've missed it Yoshi has only mentioned removing classes once, a long long time ago, in a "maybe but it won't be before 5.0 at the earliest" sort of way.

That's what I figured was likely. Suggest something once in passing, and the fandom will never forget.

[Eloah]

RDM and SMN both need to keep their rez skills. Not just because of gameplay, but canonically both are able to rez throughout the Final Fantasy series; SMN not as much, but still. Besides, at this point the playerbase is use to those jobs having the rez that too much of a drastic shift would cause some discord.

What they need to do is fix skills that have little to no use, like Tether or SMN's Physick. And Tri-Bind, fix Tri-Bind, it's not "broken" but it's not really fixed either.

[Jandor]

All casters must have an AoE bind built in to their kit, for some reason, while swiftcast is technically optional lol.

Really wonder what inspired that decision.