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  1. #51
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    The potential issue here is that by allowing people to sell super shiny mogstation items, that's going to create a pretty strong desire/need for gil. I imagine the bots and actual RMT would be far more active if this were to become a thing. People want their shiny items right away, and not everyone wants to spend the time farming for it.
    I can see the arguments for and against making the Mog Station items sellable, and what that might do to RMT - I should have mentioned that in my first post. But I think being able to directly buy gil (or buy items and immediately convert to gil, as was proposed) is more likely to have a negative effect than being able to buy items and sell them to other players.
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    Aylis Tessier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    Hey, was wondering how people felt behind allowing players to buy and sell cash shop items.

    Personally I would like something to spend Gil on. Just a general question, hope it does not turn into a shit storm.
    It really wouldn't bother me at all. I'm not one to tell a person how they can and can't spend their money. If they want to buy something off the cash shop and sell it on the auction house then let them have at it as far as I'm concerned.

    Personally though I'd much rather see a system like Crysta (or insert other currency name here) that has a chance to drop in game and can be used to purchase things off the cash shop as an alternative method of getting something off there.
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    Makeda Fyah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    You are asking for legitimized RMT. My answer is a hard no.
    Mostly I agree with you, but also built in systems to do just this have managed to kill off RMT sellers in some MMOs. So... I'm actually kind of on the fence on this one.
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  4. #54
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    Rein Tenebres
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    When it comes to RMT, I don't believe the current Mogstation inventory would have any impact, as theirs is unrelated to the current inventory in the RMT market.

    If they added Allagan Platinum Pieces as a purchaseable thing, that would be a different story.
    I suppose it could affect the dyes, since they do have in-game achieveable equivalents, so they could have competition there.
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    Nahctyrn Bhaldornnsyn
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    Fantasia from the market boards?!




    hell yeah


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  6. #56
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    We should at least have an alternative to get MogStation items from being active in the game like the "Achievement Certificate".
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  7. #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    The potential issue here is that by allowing people to sell super shiny mogstation items, that's going to create a pretty strong desire/need for gil. I imagine the bots and actual RMT would be far more active if this were to become a thing. People want their shiny items right away, and not everyone wants to spend the time farming for it.
    Not taking sides here exactly (I'm kind of on the fence about this in general), but if a person wanted to spend money for the item rather than gil, the option is still there to... buy the item yourself directly from the mog station. So I don't think this in particular would get people to buy more gil from RMT.
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brynne View Post
    Not taking sides here exactly (I'm kind of on the fence about this in general), but if a person wanted to spend money for the item rather than gil, the option is still there to... buy the item yourself directly from the mog station. So I don't think this in particular would get people to buy more gil from RMT.
    I guess this boils down to the actual RMT costs and how much people will sell items for. I don't know Gil prices at all - would it even be possible to get 20m- 40m (or more)for less than $30? Again no idea what the actual mounts and items would go for, so perhaps this is all a needless worry. :x

    I guess my concern was that if RMT can just make the gil cheaper to buy vs. buying straight the item from the Mogstation, there is gonna be a problem with increased botting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    The potential issue here is that by allowing people to sell super shiny mogstation items, that's going to create a pretty strong desire/need for gil. I imagine the bots and actual RMT would be far more active if this were to become a thing. People want their shiny items right away, and not everyone wants to spend the time farming for it.
    Why risk an account ban, hacked account or being scammed when you could get your gil 100% safely by buying mogstation items from Enix and selling them?
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Why risk an account ban, hacked account or being scammed when you could get your gil 100% safely by buying mogstation items from Enix and selling them?
    *IF* you are able to buy the amount of gil needed for an item for less than the actual mogstation price, some people may consider that a decent option. As it is, people already risk their accounts to buy gil, that's not going to suddenly stop just because you can now sell mogstation items.


    If RMT prices are still just super crazy and high (again, I really have no idea here..), then I don't think they would be much of a factor. And if that's the case, I'd actually be OK to have the mogstation items sold in-game.

    My only concern ATM is that selling mogstation items will create a huge 'need' for in-game gil --> could lead to more bots --> could lead to possible inflation
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    Last edited by Skivvy; 01-30-2019 at 05:14 AM.

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