Thavnairian Onion plans

[StouterTaru]

If a plant is done can you still cross with it even though its completed?

Yes, it's been the basis for much of my gardening

[dutt]

Yes, it's been the basis for much of my gardening

awesome I thought so I just have bad rng I guess seemed like it did but not as often when I tried. just my luck I guess.

[Gemina]

http://www.ffxivgardening.com/cross-diagrams

Is what seemed outdated to me being that its all arr stuff(i think) just how I feel your entitled to feel differently. Using shard seeds and fc credit seeds seems more recent, reliable and useful for fc mates. One of the cool things is that there is many ways to do it. not trying to take that from ya. I'm not down with being uber meta so much as useful and reliable I'll remake another one incorporating jute soon

I may try with the perpetual jute loop with one bed. another jute with mandrake then cham and onions on 3rd like Vidu suggested where I'm at now figuring out how root works into it now.

It be Ideal to find a way that uses 3 beds even though we use more and make a basic guide that is a little more up to date for everyone to use. thanks for your input.

The reason why I say it is not outdated is because the ffxivgarderning.com site itself is continuously updated. I don't know how I 'feel' anything differently. I'm just stating facts to the best of my knowledge. And with that said, I need to correct my previous post because I shouldn't say that the jute route is 'much' lower because it's actually only a 1% lesser chance than the highest. It's just my own personal result of that particular cross that does make me feel that way.

Shards are very profitable too, and my gardening mate in my FC swears by it. I don't personally use this method because I prefer to get maximum yield when using shard seeds, and using seeds for crossing purposes that only take a day to mature becomes tedious and you will burn through thanalan soil like there is no tomorrow. But if this is the method that works for you, I am not going to tell you not to do it that way.

Either way you look at it, you still need to cross two crossbreed crops in order to get the onions. How everyone goes about getting those seeds is totally up to preference, but there is definitely a most efficient, and most profitable approach to going about it.

[dutt]

The reason why I say it is not outdated is because the ffxivgarderning.com site itself is continuously updated. I don't know how I 'feel' anything differently. I'm just stating facts to the best of my knowledge. And with that said, I need to correct my previous post because I shouldn't say that the jute route is 'much' lower because it's actually only a 1% lesser chance than the highest. It's just my own personal result of that particular cross that does make me feel that way.

Shards are very profitable too, and my gardening mate in my FC swears by it. I don't personally use this method because I prefer to get maximum yield when using shard seeds, and using seeds for crossing purposes that only take a day to mature becomes tedious and you will burn through thanalan soil like there is no tomorrow. But if this is the method that works for you, I am not going to tell you not to do it that way.

Either way you look at it, you still need to cross two crossbreed crops in order to get the onions. How everyone goes about getting those seeds is totally up to preference, but there is definitely a most efficient, and most profitable approach to going about it.

K i SEE NOW

[SannaR]

I like to also make a loop where you make stuff for stable brooms and blood peppers for minions as they make for nice prizes for fc events and using anything that can be fed into the onion loop.

[dutt]

mandrake seeds in 24 housrs not really for the shards more or less to use when things aint done or sneak in there. We all pitch in dirts not an issue. I just wish we had a bag for seeds that all could go in.

[Edax]

What I do is crop rotation because whenever I mass produce Royal Fern, I crash the market. So I'll start with Mirror Apples + Krakka Root. Both have demand on the MB, although the profit will be low. That will get me Curiel Root Seeds. Then I'll use Curiel Root seeds with Royal Fern to produce Thavnairian Onion seeds. Both Curiel Roots and Royal Fern have demand on the market. Then I'll grow Thavnairian Onion with Camomile to get more Curiel Root seeds.

But eventually I need the time to get more Royal Fern seeds (I dedicate 1 garden for blood peppers and old world figs to keep up Royal Fern production and so I don't have to re-plant blood peppers) and Curiel Root seeds so I'm constantly rotating my crops and stockpiling large amounts of seeds.

[melisande]

Here is my rotation.

Keep a bed on pretty much constant rotation with Ala Mhigan Mustard and Linseed to make Mandrake Seeds. The Mustard seeds and Linseeds are very cheap from your GC.

Once I have enough Mandrake seeds, i grow 2 beds of Cieldalaes Pineapple x Mandrake - this usually yields Onion Prince Seeds and if you're lucky Mimett Gourd Seeds.
Fertilize only the Cieldalaes Pineapple as it grows much more quickly than the mandrakes and you can get up to 2 - 3 yields.

Once I have about 8 - 16 Mimett Gourd seeds, and some Onion Prince Seeds in abundance, I cross the Mandrakes with Onion Prince for Pearl Roselle Seeds.
Fertilize only the Mandrakes for two yields because the Onion Prince take a very long time to grow.

I cross the Pearl Roselle and the Mimett Gourd seeds for Thav Onion Seeds.
Fertilize only the Mimett Gourds for a double yield.
I try to get at least 8 Thav Onion seeds before the next part.

I plant 4 x 4 (Thav Onion x Mandrake) in each bed to obtain more Mimett Gourd seeds, since naturally you will have more abundance of the Pearl Roselle.
Fertilize only the Mandrake for a double yield.

This is my personal rotation. Hope its helpful to someone.

[Edax]

Here is my rotation.

Keep a bed on pretty much constant rotation with Ala Mhigan Mustard and Linseed to make Mandrake Seeds. The Mustard seeds and Linseeds are very cheap from your GC.

Once I have enough Mandrake seeds, i grow 2 beds of Cieldalaes Pineapple x Mandrake.
The usual yield for this is Onion Prince Seeds, and sometimes Mimett Gourd Seeds.

Once I have about 8 - 16 Mimett Gourd seeds, and some Onion Prince Seeds in abundance, I cross the Mandrakes with Onion Prince for Pearl Roselle Seeds.

I cross the Pearl Roselle and the Mimett Gourd seeds for Thav Onion Seeds.
I try to get at least 8 Thav Onion seeds before the next part.

I plant 4 x 4 (Thav Onion x Mandrake) in each bed to obtain more Mimett Gourd seeds, since naturally you will have more abundance of the Pearl Roselle.

This is my personal rotation. Hope its helpful to someone.

Mandrake seeds are very easily procured from a retainer. You can get 4 seeds in 160 minutes.

[Gemina]

mandrake seeds in 24 housrs not really for the shards more or less to use when things aint done or sneak in there. We all pitch in dirts not an issue. I just wish we had a bag for seeds that all could go in.

Heh! My FC mate showed me something similar because she just loves to plant those shards. What I told her though is that I would never use garden beds to cross for seeds that can be harvested. Yes, I know mandrake seeds SUCK to harvest because they share the node with another seed adding another layer of RNG. Basically though, I would tell my FC mate that she's not optimizing the garden beds, adding to overall lead time, and accepting a 50% lower yield on shards for seed packets she can get herself.

To acquire mandrake seeds, I just send my retainer after them, and I will harvest them myself if I am waiting in a queue. If I do this while doing my roulettes, I usually end up with 5-8 seed packets by the time I am done. What's important is that I have another set of mandrakes seeds ready to go by the time the current crops mature. For me, I need to gather 12 packets in five Earth day's time, which is easily done using the methods I just mentioned.

The thing is, she got mad at me and I felt like that one guy in dungeons who tries to push their optimal rotations on someone unsolicited. So please don't think I'm pushing the one all, be all way to do things. That was more of sharing a story between my FC mate and I over mandrakes, while also mentioning an alternative means to go about getting mandrakes if it does interest you