Good King Moggle Mog XII DOWN!

[Agate]

I'm just upset at the suggestion that my friends be banned because we beat Moogle the way we did. I'm not going to hide it and act like I beat it without resetting. I used the reset trick tonight. And if I fought him all day tomorrow with the same group I have no doubt we could win without it. But seriously the difference in beating him with and without the reset trick is not huge, and even if my group decided to quit at just winning with raise resets, they're all very skilled players and there's nothing near ban-worthy about the way we fought those fights.

And Jynx, get bent man you don't know me. XD

[TheFatHousecat]

I'm just upset at the suggestion that my friends be banned because we beat Moogle the way we did. I'm not going to hide it and act like I beat it without resetting. I used the reset trick tonight. And if I fought him all day tomorrow with the same group I have no doubt we could win without it. But seriously the difference in beating him with and without the reset trick is not huge, and even if my group decided to quit at just winning with raise resets, they're all very skilled players and there's nothing near ban-worthy about the way we fought those fights.

And Jynx, get bent man you don't know me. XD

You SHOULD be banned, though, as upset as you may be, that's the fact of the matter. If you can beat it legitimately than why don't you? You're either lazy or lack the skill to even try to do so, and I'm confused as to why you're in this game if you're not even going to play it.

The difference is huge; have you ever beaten it legitimately? If the difference wasn't that huge, then why would people even exploit in the first place? You're starting new, you don't have to worry about maintaining MP and DPS, you don't have to keep your game up to par for the entire duration of the fight... believe me, it's much, much easier to use the exploit. Go ahead and see how long it takes you to beat it legitimately, and compare that to how long it took you to use the exploit, and if you still think he exploit doesn't make it significantly easier then you're either dense or just stubborn.

[Penguin]

And if I fought him all day tomorrow with the same group I have no doubt we could win without it. But seriously the difference in beating him with and without the reset trick is not huge, and even if my group decided to quit at just winning with raise resets, they're all very skilled players and there's nothing near ban-worthy about the way we fought those fights.

Exploits similar to the raise-reset exploit on moogle and exploits with much less impact on the fights mechanics have resulted in bans and removal of items/achievements in other established MMO's and for good reason.

If you can do it the legitimate way than why not do it? simple answer is that it is easier to exploit the encounter and it seems like a decent chunk of the community of this game have no qualms about breaking the mechanics of the fight to benefit them which is extremely sad.