What Happened to Potion Consistency?

[InkstainedGwyn]

Savage, extreme, raids, trials are all designed around an exact "dance" - healers need to heal the raidwide damage at x point, heal the tanks at x point, everyone needs to dodge mechanics because the encounter is built for them not to take extra damage. There's really no challenge in these beyond memorising the steps, which could be faster or slower depending on the difficulty of the content.

Potions would skew that. Suddenly it would be okay that the dragoon decided to eat every single one of Mustadio's right/left handgonne moves (since he'd only be standing in one anyway and one won't kill you) because he could just pop a potion before the energy burst hits. Fights would suddenly be a lot easier to cheese (since right now the only reason they work is because of the challenge of keeping everything going when one person messes up mechanics.) And granted, as a healer, I wouldn't mind the idea that I would no longer have to do clutch healing (ideally I shouldn't be anyway, because everybody should know their steps) but I really hate the level of braindead that would turn most of the content into.

If the fights were less scripted, I could see potions mattering. As it is now, it would simply add a safety net for folks who don't want to learn mechanics.

[Jeska_D_Estraad]

If the fights were less scripted, I could see potions mattering. As it is now, it would simply add a safety net for folks who don't want to learn mechanics.

To be fair, I'm not a raider so I didn't -quite- take that into account, but it doesn't seem like it'd be the end of the world to adjust a rotation, especially with rotations going to need to be redone most likely with Shadowbringers.

Outside of that, in certain content- especially synced content, potions can definitely be the difference between a complete wipe or survival. Again, it's not raid-tier stuff so it's not like it's the end of the world; but it can lead to some of those crazy close call stories. I mainly noticed the discrepancy due to me being an Alchemist- and it's bugged me for a while. Just decided to mention it and see what others thought.

[Nora_of_Mira]

Potions would skew that. Suddenly it would be okay that the dragoon decided to eat every single one of Mustadio's right/left handgonne moves (since he'd only be standing in one anyway and one won't kill you) because he could just pop a potion before the energy burst hits..

I can attest to this as that is exactly what I would do. However, dodging right/left handgonne doesnt affect my GCD at all as you can hug the boss just fine. what I WOULD use the Pot for is Seiryu's In-and-Out mechanic and stay in regardless of the AoE. currently, I pop Bloodbath and Second Wind and take a Vuln stack whenever I don't have any to begin with. Yeah I'm technically cheesing it, but it just means I CANT get hit by any mechanic for the rest of the fight or its certain death, so I kind of think that balances it out.

edit: its certainly NOT because I dont know the mechanics or I like being lazy, its because I miss a ton of GCDs moving out of that AoE for what seems like minimal damage and minor punishment.

[InkstainedGwyn]

I can attest to this as that is exactly what I would do. However, dodging right/left handgonne doesnt affect my GCD at all as you can hug the boss just fine. what I WOULD use the Pot for is Seiryu's In-and-Out mechanic and stay in regardless of the AoE. currently, I pop Bloodbath and Second Wind and take a Vuln stack whenever I don't have any to begin with. Yeah I'm technically cheesing it, but it just means I CANT get hit by any mechanic for the rest of the fight or its certain death, so I kind of think that balances it out.

edit: its certainly NOT because I dont know the mechanics or I like being lazy, its because I miss a ton of GCDs moving out of that AoE for what seems like minimal damage and minor punishment.

Yeah, I have 0 idea on actual melee mechanics, I only ever take my healer in - and I know that it's sometimes "worth it" to skip a mechanic (I'll sometimes double-shield a melee doing the LB3 because there's no good time for it), so I don't see that and automatically think "lazy".

But then there's the bard I had last night that at one point during Agrias had 5 vulnerability stacks because they never used shields, never dodged AOEs, did nothing but stand there and shoot (they ate every mechanic in Mustadio and Cid, too) and I just... well, I don't despair, I just let them die and rez them when I have mana.

[Nora_of_Mira]

But then there's the bard I had last night that at one point during Agrias had 5 vulnerability stacks because they never used shields, never dodged AOEs, did nothing but stand there and shoot (they ate every mechanic in Mustadio and Cid, too) and I just... well, I don't despair, I just let them die and rez them when I have mana.

LOL I think you did the right thing. I also have the benefit of my friend being the healer and having him in discord with me. I hear such a passive aggressive sigh with every Vuln stack.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[InkstainedGwyn]

LOL I think you did the right thing. I also have the benefit of my friend being the healer and having him in discord with me. I hear such a passive aggressive sigh with every Vuln stack.¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Don't mind us, just your local pillars of salt, sighing as we watch the invulns roll in...