Can we have a server merger after fee take place ?

[Murugan]

I fail to understand the want for regional servers on this game.

NA's it would be far worse then Aion is atm, EU would just be screwed, and JP would be strong.

It comes from people who don't understand "lag", and xenophobes.

[DAOWAce]

It comes from people who don't understand "lag", and xenophobes.

I can't tell if you're for or against me.

Either way: http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...92063227414682

[Blarp]

I fail to understand the want for regional servers on this game.

NA's it would be far worse then Aion is atm, EU would just be screwed, and JP would be strong.

Right now it would be awful. Maybe if the game ever gets to the point of having a substantial user base in each region it would be worth it. I can tell you why I would eventually want regional servers if the game became populated enough to warrant it.

In WoW, I play on a BG with a Spanish speaking server. Running into players from that server in a LFG heroic or raid can be pretty damn frustrating -- especially when you're trying to explain the encounter to them, or how to avoid wiping the entire group on the pull. It's nothing personal, of course. It would just be a whole lot easier if everybody could speak the same language. I see the same problem happening when 2.0 finally comes out and the content finder is implemented.

[Ilean]

I fail to understand the want for regional servers on this game.

NA's it would be far worse then Aion is atm, EU would just be screwed, and JP would be strong.

Good points have been made again and again, and I call them GOOD because they would positively affect game experience.

All that people against regional servers ever bring to the table is how fun it is to interact with other cultures, which is valid, but this is a game and gameplay > all.

[Murugan]

Good points have been made again and again, and I call them GOOD because they would positively affect game experience.

All that people against regional servers ever bring to the table is how fun it is to interact with other cultures, which is valid, but this is a game and gameplay > all.

• Interacting with other cultures
• A steady population to play with at all times (rather than NA only servers in other MMO's even your vaunted WoW with it's millions of subscribers which die during off, non-peak hours)
• The economic, and game play benefits of having multiple regions and time zones represented. (not everyone competing for everything at the same time, in general a greater variety of suppliers due to a 24 hour global community as opposed to a regional one)
  
  
  
• Being able to play with people around the world, nothing to do with "culture" simply the fact that some of us have people we like to play with who don't happen to live in the same country as we do. Why is that so hard for you to understand, this is the global internet if you want media constricted to your geographic location how about you go find a LAN party.
  

All people supporting Regional servers have to say are (omitting the blatant racism which always pops up in these discussions):

"I can't understand their funny language". Even though the game features an in-game translation tool, and easily facilitates the use of third party sources to help communicate with people in other languages.

The fact that the majority of players are able to make an effort to communicate across language barriers in all sorts of situations and have for years in FFXI/XIV wome eludes these people.

and "I have all this lag because the servers are located on the other side of the world!" from people who don't understand how the internet works.

[Lienn]

Good points have been made again and again, and I call them GOOD because they would positively affect game experience.

All that people against regional servers ever bring to the table is how fun it is to interact with other cultures, which is valid, but this is a game and gameplay > all.

I disagree. Fun > all. Gameplay just helps a bit. FFXI never had regional servers and it always worked perfectly...ven with the latency. Also, IMO regional servers very often create discriminatory behavior from those not from that region but that happen to have some "odd" playing time for his own region.

FFXI was one of the first MMOs that offer only global servers and IMO SE should keep this up.

[Ilean]

• Interacting with other cultures
• A steady population to play with at all times (rather than NA only servers in other MMO's even your vaunted WoW with it's millions of subscribers which die during off, non-peak hours)
• The economic, and game play benefits of having multiple regions and time zones represented. (not everyone competing for everything at the same time, in general a greater variety of suppliers due to a 24 hour global community as opposed to a regional one)
  
  
  
• Being able to play with people around the world, nothing to do with "culture" simply the fact that some of us have people we like to play with who don't happen to live in the same country as we do. Why is that so hard for you to understand, this is the global internet if you want media constricted to your geographic location how about you go find a LAN party.
  

1 - /shrug, this is a game, gameplay > all.

2 - Most JP people don't even bother with autotranslate when putting groups together, whatever their reasons are the outcome is the same.

3 - Goes both ways, you get more supply AND more demand so not a real advantage.

4 - What? You repeated 1.



BTW I don't want anything restricted (constricted?) to geo location, only a server that is half the latency away. Also I wouldn't want SE to lock ppl out by regions, that is if you want to play in a JP server then nothing should stop you and the other way around.


Edit:

So what's the advantage if people could still play on servers from other regions?

1 - Less latency.
2 - Making servers officially NA would mean most of its players understand each other, or at least don't have some form of cultural weirdness that excuses them from using the autotranslator.

[Murugan]

1 - /shrug, this is a game, gameplay > all.

2 - Most JP people don't even bother with autotranslate when putting groups together, whatever their reasons are the outcome is the same.

3 - Goes both ways, you get more supply AND more demand so not a real advantage.

4 - What? You repeated 1.



BTW I don't want anything restricted (constricted?) to geo location, only a server that is half the latency away. Also I wouldn't want SE to lock ppl out by regions, that is if you want to play in a JP server then nothing should stop you and the other way around.


Edit:

So what's the advantage if people could still play on servers from other regions?

1 - Less latency.
2 - Making servers officially NA would mean most of its players understand each other, or at least don't have some form of cultural weirdness that excuses them from using the autotranslator.

1. Latency is not the issue.
2. "cultural weirdness"? Right... I'm not even going to explore this because this is where the racist overtones from the pro-regional crowd generally begin, as I said most people manage just fine on global servers with no impediment to their "gameplay".

I will not play on a Japanese server if they go to regional servers, I will just not play.

I don't play FFXIV because I can play with Japanese players. I prefer global servers because I don't always play during US primetimes, so I don't want NA only servers. Some of the most memorable MMO moments for me have come while I was playing with people in Australia, Europe, Japan, HK, and other areas who I would not have a chance to play with if we were constricted to only regional servers.

Also again, less competition for content due to a spreading out of the population, and higher server population overall due to a 24 hour globally active server as opposed to one restricted to a single region > your being uncomfortable around people who speak another language, or come from a different region.

[weeble]

1. Latency is not the issue.
2. "cultural weirdness"? Right... I'm not even going to explore this because this is where the racist overtones from the pro-regional crowd generally begin, as I said most people manage just fine on global servers with no impediment to their "gameplay".

I will not play on a Japanese server if they go to regional servers, I will just not play.

I don't play FFXIV because I can play with Japanese players. I prefer global servers because I don't always play during US primetimes, so I don't want NA only servers. Some of the most memorable MMO moments for me have come while I was playing with people in Australia, Europe, Japan, HK, and other areas who I would not have a chance to play with if we were constricted to only regional servers.

Also again, less competition for content due to a spreading out of the population, and higher server population overall due to a 24 hour globally active server as opposed to one restricted to a single region > your being uncomfortable around people who speak another language, or come from a different region.

agree with this, i might be english but i don't always play on english hours, nor do i want to roll with just the english. mmo's based just in the states tend to suck arse. and then there isn't anyone else to play with or to losen the noose that some have tightened to have a server playing the way they want it. if a jungle is just filled with monkeys then it just smells like monkey dung. rather have all the animals chillin together even if it still smells like crap.

but real merges ...yes please we need to be merged ..at least the smaller servers they are rediculous. push at least a 1k or more pop on servers at the least ...i'm sure these broken servers can't handle to much either way lol.

[Ilean]

1. Latency is not the issue.
2. "cultural weirdness"? Right... I'm not even going to explore this because this is where the racist overtones from the pro-regional crowd generally begin, as I said most people manage just fine on global servers with no impediment to their "gameplay".

I will not play on a Japanese server if they go to regional servers, I will just not play.

I don't play FFXIV because I can play with Japanese players. I prefer global servers because I don't always play during US primetimes, so I don't want NA only servers. Some of the most memorable MMO moments for me have come while I was playing with people in Australia, Europe, Japan, HK, and other areas who I would not have a chance to play with if we were constricted to only regional servers.

Also again, less competition for content due to a spreading out of the population, and higher server population overall due to a 24 hour globally active server as opposed to one restricted to a single region > your being uncomfortable around people who speak another language, or come from a different region.

Latency is not an issue but -100ms would be very welcome.

LOL! Racist overtones? Hint: It's not the english speaking crowd who is afraid of using the autotranslator. Lots of excuses have been made as to why the JP don't bother with it, they are shy, their culture is different, whatever, at the end results are the same.

My server is around 1/3 NA, FR, DE and 2/3 JP. Keep hating me because I rather be in one where the majority understands me or at least cares to try.