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    JohnSpawnVFX's Avatar
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    As we sit here bickering about things we wouldn't be bickering about if there were no limited jobs... :thinking:

    Yes, I think it has.
    Or people can be better and not complain about things they're not forced to participate in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Or people can be better and not complain about things they're not forced to participate in...
    Because releasing poorly thought out content is what you all want more of, right?
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    JohnSpawnVFX's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Because releasing poorly thought out content is what you all want more of, right?
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to") and some weird saltiness over being "forced" to "carry" them on a lvl 70 (because apparently someone put a gun to the lvl 70s head, and they were forced to do it under coercion).
    But yeah, the problem stems from "poorly thought out content" and not selfishness and lack of teamwork. Is the DF poorly thought out content too, due to all of the Tales from Duty Finder we all encounter everyday?
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    Qt Melon
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    Cactuar
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to") and some weird saltiness over being "forced" to "carry" them on a lvl 70 (because apparently someone put a gun to the lvl 70s head, and they were forced to do it under coercion).
    But yeah, the problem stems from "poorly thought out content" and not selfishness and lack of teamwork. Is the DF poorly thought out content too, due to all of the Tales from Duty Finder we all encounter everyday?
    Pretty much. There was someone in Novice chat that had complained that he didn't have friends to play with and powerlevel and I told him I'd help and took him and a bunch of other players in a zone people weren't in and power leveled them, I even helped them get spells needed for progression. Everyone got what they wanted and I did it for free hoping they may offer the same courtesy to other players. I did the same thing for most of the week for other players who just simply asked.

    It made people more social, go figure...not worse. I mean we had fun blowing ourselves up on Steps of Faith. I went in as a Blue in that fight to demonstrate, and told them I'll be handling the trash when the turtle spawned so they don't have to worry about it.

    When someone said they needed tail screw, I had them join my party and I went in a 70 class to help them get the spell.

    I guess thankful players that were willing to pay it forward, "Brought out the worst in the community"

    *shrugs*
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    Jace Ossura
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to") and some weird saltiness over being "forced" to "carry" them on a lvl 70 (because apparently someone put a gun to the lvl 70s head, and they were forced to do it under coercion).
    But yeah, the problem stems from "poorly thought out content" and not selfishness and lack of teamwork. Is the DF poorly thought out content too, due to all of the Tales from Duty Finder we all encounter everyday?
    Found the MEGA hat wearer.
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    Alphinaud's Assistant
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    Balmung
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    Marauder Lv 10
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to")
    It's only reasonable for people to want to main a new class when it comes out in an MMO. It's also reasonable for people that are upset when they're told that that they can't main it and can only do very specific things with it.
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    Summoner Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by GucciSan View Post
    It's only reasonable for people to want to main a new class when it comes out in an MMO. It's also reasonable for people that are upset when they're told that that they can't main it and can only do very specific things with it.
    Its also reasonable when the job is billed as one thing, a solo job, that then requires party content to function at anything past the most basic level OR to even do its solo content, the Masked Carnival.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Or people can be better and not complain about things they're not forced to participate in...
    And what about the people who wanted Blue Mage? I mean an ACTUAL Blue Mage, with a definitive goal. Or even the people who wanted their class to be a MAIN, and are angry or upset because its relegated to a mini-game that is already dead?

    IF Blue Mage were a soloable class, with the Masked Carnival serving as both a measure of skill and as a place to get more rare blue mage spells or IF Blue Mage were implemented to be able to do standard duty roulette's and MSQ's but restricted from doing current end game content and only allowed after the next patch, one direction or the other, people would be a lot happier. It would either be a definite solo class or a restricted normal class that could still participate and we wouldn't have people unhappy because right now, its neither.
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    Last edited by Palladiamors; 01-25-2019 at 07:34 AM.