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  1. #191
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    We wanted to discuss issues to Blue Mage, not blame it for things that were already in the game.
    If BLU exasperated a problem that already existed in game, it seems reasonable to include those problems in a discussion regarding the viability of future limited jobs. If for no other reason than to get them fixed first!

    But nah, that argument is too "unreasonable"
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 01-25-2019 at 07:41 AM.

  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    If BLU exasperated a problem that already existed in game, it seems reasonable to include those problems in a discussion regarding the viability of future limited jobs. If for no other reason that to get them fixed first!

    But nah, that argument is to "unreasonable"
    Except that they were non issues unless you were part of the party involved that was slighted by it.

    I mean at least when people are arguing about statements about the live letter it has a bolder point BECAUSE it affects those that are really trying to play it.

    A person wanting Blue Mage to be part of a regular job, while I don't have a horse in that race I can also understand because of how the spells have played and how they limited the class.



    A Blue Mage getting a spell in a party of preforms deigned to get the spell in the first place is a non issue.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Because releasing poorly thought out content is what you all want more of, right?
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to") and some weird saltiness over being "forced" to "carry" them on a lvl 70 (because apparently someone put a gun to the lvl 70s head, and they were forced to do it under coercion).
    But yeah, the problem stems from "poorly thought out content" and not selfishness and lack of teamwork. Is the DF poorly thought out content too, due to all of the Tales from Duty Finder we all encounter everyday?
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    A Blue Mage getting a spell in a party of preforms deigned to get the spell in the first place is a non issue.
    For the 15,624th time.. It's about the idea of whether this concept is actually a fun, viable or long-term content structure to base future limited jobs off of. If you hadn't decided to take every. single. comment. out of context perhaps you could follow along.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to") and some weird saltiness over being "forced" to "carry" them on a lvl 70 (because apparently someone put a gun to the lvl 70s head, and they were forced to do it under coercion).
    But yeah, the problem stems from "poorly thought out content" and not selfishness and lack of teamwork. Is the DF poorly thought out content too, due to all of the Tales from Duty Finder we all encounter everyday?
    Wouldn't know, I'm not trying to assume I know everyone's motivation for sharing their opinion of BLU or of limited jobs. Just glad to know I'm not included in "most", all my casters are still in the 50s and I voluntarily carried 6 BLUs through primal fights for 3-4 hours last week since I'm not leveling mine.
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    Last edited by whiskeybravo; 01-25-2019 at 08:02 AM.

  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to") and some weird saltiness over being "forced" to "carry" them on a lvl 70 (because apparently someone put a gun to the lvl 70s head, and they were forced to do it under coercion).
    But yeah, the problem stems from "poorly thought out content" and not selfishness and lack of teamwork. Is the DF poorly thought out content too, due to all of the Tales from Duty Finder we all encounter everyday?
    Pretty much. There was someone in Novice chat that had complained that he didn't have friends to play with and powerlevel and I told him I'd help and took him and a bunch of other players in a zone people weren't in and power leveled them, I even helped them get spells needed for progression. Everyone got what they wanted and I did it for free hoping they may offer the same courtesy to other players. I did the same thing for most of the week for other players who just simply asked.

    It made people more social, go figure...not worse. I mean we had fun blowing ourselves up on Steps of Faith. I went in as a Blue in that fight to demonstrate, and told them I'll be handling the trash when the turtle spawned so they don't have to worry about it.

    When someone said they needed tail screw, I had them join my party and I went in a 70 class to help them get the spell.

    I guess thankful players that were willing to pay it forward, "Brought out the worst in the community"

    *shrugs*
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  6. #196
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to") and some weird saltiness over being "forced" to "carry" them on a lvl 70 (because apparently someone put a gun to the lvl 70s head, and they were forced to do it under coercion).
    But yeah, the problem stems from "poorly thought out content" and not selfishness and lack of teamwork. Is the DF poorly thought out content too, due to all of the Tales from Duty Finder we all encounter everyday?
    Found the MEGA hat wearer.
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  7. #197
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    You have to be on some weird stuff to say its "entitlement" for players to want to main a classic Final Fantasy job in a Final Fantasy MMO that you have to pay a subscription for. Entitlement would be feeling like you deserve to clear UCOB without putting in the necessary effort. Blue Mage as a real FFXIV job is a longstanding and completely reasonable expectation.
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    Last edited by RadicalPesto; 01-25-2019 at 09:42 AM.

  8. #198
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Most complaints stem from entitlement ("But I wanted to main it even though no one said I would be able to")
    It's only reasonable for people to want to main a new class when it comes out in an MMO. It's also reasonable for people that are upset when they're told that that they can't main it and can only do very specific things with it.
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  9. #199
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    Quote Originally Posted by GucciSan View Post
    It's only reasonable for people to want to main a new class when it comes out in an MMO. It's also reasonable for people that are upset when they're told that that they can't main it and can only do very specific things with it.
    Its also reasonable when the job is billed as one thing, a solo job, that then requires party content to function at anything past the most basic level OR to even do its solo content, the Masked Carnival.
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    Its really funny how some people get mad at the mere mention of FFXI but dont seem to care when the same mechanics from other games like wow get copied, lol
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