As an FFXI player, thank you for Limited Jobs and BLU SE

[Kabooa]

Not sure what you are trying to "counter". The # of likes comment is related to OP's impression that forum discussion and tone are guided by people's psychological desire to seek attention and get Likes, which eventually devolves into toxic behavior and sets up a sort of negative feedback loop. Which I don't doubt has some credence "in general", but it's certainly not the elephant it's being made out to be as plenty of toxicity gets called out around here.

"People agreeing with you and not me means you're creating a toxic atmosphere."

[KokonoeAiyoko]

if you like ff11 blue mage, go play ff11

{No thanks.}

[QT_Melon]

Not sure what you are trying to "counter". The # of likes comment is related to OP's impression that forum discussion and tone are guided by people's psychological desire to seek attention and get Likes, which eventually devolves into toxic behavior and sets up a sort of negative feedback loop. Which I don't doubt has some credence "in general", but it's certainly not the elephant it's being made out to be as plenty of toxicity gets called out around here.

I suppose it's another ride on your hyperbole train then?

[whiskeybravo]

I suppose it's another ride on your hyperbole train then?

I think you need to check the definition of hyperbole, or go back and read the thread. :shrug:

[QT_Melon]

I think you need to check the definition of hyperbole, or go back and read the thread. :shrug:

I did. I stand by my statement. Can we get back to discussing Blue Mage please?

[whiskeybravo]

I did. I stand by my statement.

Oh, I see now. I think, at least, since you didn't exactly specify what you found to be a hyperbolic statement. You must be referring to the "EXP exploits, afk BLUs getting carried by lv70s, and lol130 potency". I find all 3 claims quite true and factual, since I was there for 100+ runs/3-4 hours of Titan, Ifrit, Levi, Ramuh, and Garuda carrying BLUs as community service.

I stand by my statements as well. You can call it hyperbolic since you don't agree, doesn't really change the facts.

[Luciano_Bozzelli]

Blue is broken.

I was just stating I had fun on blue, and pointing out the fact that we ran through that 24 man dungeon like diarrhea in an old folks home. People have soloed coil. So I'm just saying.... couldn't solo coil on no dragoon... meaning blue is good if used right is all I'm saying.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

People have soloed coil. So I'm just saying.... couldn't solo coil on no dragoon... meaning blue is good if used right is all I'm saying.

Nice to hear about this from someone who actually played Blue at a higher level than most.

[Fal_Kearst]

Blue makes me happy.

[Ruf]

The thing is, Final Fantasy XI was an objectively terrible game. The EXP Party system that players developed in response to the twin mechanics of "You lose EXP when you die" and "You have to be in a party to get anything accomplished" was quite possibly the most tedious, mind-numbing, and godawful experience ever placed in a video game. None of that was fun. It was fun in the same way a second job or an emotionally-needy long-distance girlfriend might be considered as such. You had to take the same approach to playing FFXI as you would to building a model ship, or writing a novel, just without any tangible results on the other end of it.

There is a big distinction between having fun doing an activity and putting up with doing an activity with the expectation that a reward would appear at the end of it. The Blue Mage skill grind, and Final Fantasy XI as a whole, are decidedly in the second category.

And even IF you personally have no issue putting up with the grind, there is nothing stopping you from practicing a little empathy for people who aren't. There is also nothing wrong with wanting the job to reach a place where it would actually be fun to play for everyone, instead of just you.

No one should like that game.
Final Fantasy XI is a useless game. If our lawmakers wanted to be consistent, they'd outlaw video games like that on the same professed grounds as marijuana prohibition. Chronic use of Final Fantasy XI will make you dull, reclusive, unmotivated, unthoughtful, and detached from reality -- and unlike cannabis, it isn't even fun. And that, for a video game, is the greatest crime of all.

This guy,,,(insert...), Final Fantasy 11 is A BETTER GAME THAN XIV, & its been for the WHOLE XIV LIFE (AKA 10years+) GET OVER IT MISTER I PLAY 70days & then hate on community that do like this sort of gameplay. Leave the law & the marijuana out of this like seriously. If I was of your mentaility & running my life by your mentality I would of never tryed final fantasy 14 & honestly I do think xiv is a fun game but its sure not the "niche" type of mmo that is what make final fantasy be final fantasy.All i see here is stolen content from previous franchise experience. Going by your logic video games should barely if not even exist to begin with.Take that logic & biiaf.

PS: XI gameplay is not dull & its still kickin, (you brought up how it took a year for it to get better & you brought up finances) WELL ONCE AGAIN AND IVE SAID IT BEFORE & I SHALL REPEAT IT AGAIN!: 11 barely ever got advertisments if you compare it to other games. XI advertising sure was nothing versus what xiv is seeing or what wow have seen. 1 magazine, 1 brad game guide thats it, (far as being NA goes to my knowledge) Where was television? Live letters inside of a school gym? … http://archive.fo/L2RJv