Dev clarifaction on exp switch

[SannaR]

Right because switching to a higher lv job and one shoting a spell mob or just a mob that's used just for xp before the spell is used or killing it right after the person pulls so the puller doesn't get any xp or get to learn the spell isn't hurting anyone one. /rolls eyes.

[Duskane]

im not surprised
they release a very exploitable job and people find exploits

[Jaggamond]

Another page out of the old book:

"Playing by the rules is for dummies!"

[24spencer]

protip: if you are legitimately fuming about this and trying to antagonize and witchhunt players who leveled their minigame job faster than you approve of then i think you need to take a deep breath and think about what happened in your life to lead you to this point.

[Jaggamond]

protip: if you are legitimately fuming about this and trying to antagonize and witchhunt players who leveled their minigame job faster than you approve of then i think you need to take a deep breath and think about what happened in your life to lead you to this point.

I'm totally on board. If it's okay with SE it's fair game.

[Vidu]

Right because switching to a higher lv job and one shoting a spell mob or just a mob that's used just for xp before the spell is used or killing it right after the person pulls so the puller doesn't get any xp or get to learn the spell isn't hurting anyone one. /rolls eyes.

Thats not what I said or what I meant.

What I said/meant is basically: It doesnt hurt you that someone leveled their BLU in a less "legit" way.

What you're describing (a level 70 character killing a mob you wanted to kill as level 35 blu) can happen just as easly for different reasons - just to give you an example: My boyfriend and I were leveling from 33-37 by killing the black sheep in Coerthas, which I suggested since I can also use their fleece. At the same time a level 70 WHM was farming the sheep, most likely only for the fleece. Something similar might happen with Apkallus - a mob that both teaches you a skill, but also has some intresting loot, so I used to spend some time killing them as level 70 bard.
Some people might also just kill those mobs to troll (opposed to the legit reason of "I want the loot" - yes, bluemage doesnt get priority here. Needing fleece is just as legit as needing exp.)

My point is that the simple method of leveling your bluemage through job switches isnt hurting anyone - battling over mobs, having people one-shot or pull them etc. might hurt you and it might be partial conencted to the leveling-method, but its by no means exclusive.

[Deceptus]

I think this was a REALLY bad move on their part. They admitted they knew an exploit was wrong but didn't have the means to fix it. This does nothing but reinforce the negative thoughts about their crappy programming code.

[SannaR]

Thats not what I said or what I meant.

What I said/meant is basically: It doesnt hurt you that someone leveled their BLU in a less "legit" way.

What you're describing (a level 70 character killing a mob you wanted to kill as level 35 blu) can happen just as easly for different reasons - just to give you an example: My boyfriend and I were leveling from 33-37 by killing the black sheep in Coerthas, which I suggested since I can also use their fleece. At the same time a level 70 WHM was farming the sheep, most likely only for the fleece. Something similar might happen with Apkallus - a mob that both teaches you a skill, but also has some intresting loot, so I used to spend some time killing them as level 70 bard.
Some people might also just kill those mobs to troll (opposed to the legit reason of "I want the loot" - yes, bluemage doesnt get priority here. Needing fleece is just as legit as needing exp.)

My point is that the simple method of leveling your bluemage through job switches isnt hurting anyone - battling over mobs, having people one-shot or pull them etc. might hurt you and it might be partial conencted to the leveling-method, but its by no means exclusive.

So those who'd use the exploit in Fog fens even on the mudpuppies that don't give the spell and kill steal thunder sprites or use the exploit on the mudpuppies that do give the spell before it can go off is ok cause it doesn't hurt anyone let alone the puller. Got it. So I shouldn't want those who again must be using said exploit to instantly kill a lv 44 monster when their blue is lv 27 to get punished some how. Makes a lot of sense.

[Reynhart]

Right because switching to a higher lv job and one shoting a spell mob or just a mob that's used just for xp before the spell is used or killing it right after the person pulls so the puller doesn't get any xp or get to learn the spell isn't hurting anyone one. /rolls eyes.

That's...a completely different topic, you know...It has nothing to do with "Switching to a high job then switching back to BLU before Xp calculation".

[Tinibou]

I think this was a REALLY bad move on their part. They admitted they knew an exploit was wrong but didn't have the means to fix it. This does nothing but reinforce the negative thoughts about their crappy programming code.

I didn't understand it that way (even though I don't defend them because I think there were wrong too)
The original issue had no real consequences until then so I can understand that it wasn't a priority. It's the kind of issue you say "I'll fix it one day"

But the real problem isn't they hadn't fixed it since all that time since the nearly-zero consequences. The real problem is they knew about that issue and they should have (while implementing the Blue Mage) thought about that issue and fixed it. They didn't. Here they screwed up.