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  1. #21
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Kugane (No that red crayon is totally legitimate) >.>
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    BLU totally has a rotation. Its stack all your buffs/debuffs then cast final sting, get raised, repeat :P

    Getting kicked from party based on job class? *shrug* people have been kicking others from parties for far dumber reasons since the beginning of online gaming.
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  2. #22
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    Lusavari's Avatar
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    Vesperlyn Hayle
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Do you have Level-5 Death? No?
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  3. #23
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I think the same issue might be in play for anyone signing up to an undersized run with a Lv50 class, and simply expecting it to be okay. It's a logical thing that if someone is recruiting an undersized party, they're looking for overleveled characters who can blast through the fight, and if you're joining when you're just at the minimum level for the content, then that's not what they're looking for.

    Maybe they didn't explicitly ban you from joining in the first place, but there's still a degree of "what's expected" and it's not expected that a Lv50 player will join to run a Lv50 trial unsynched. It defeats the purpose of undersizing in the first place.

    It might be different if you sent a message and asked for permission to join.
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  4. #24
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    While I agree with the sentiments of gen pop here, it's as fair as it's going to get and all, there is one glaring point of irony here I think is being overlooked.

    How often do you see a large group of 70s wiping, often multiple times, because they couldn't hold back on their DPS?

    BLU might not be bringing big damage, but that also means they're not as likely to push an enrage.
    Actually you'd be surprised how fast a gang of blues can push enrage with moonflutes burst damage.
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  5. #25
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    Transient_Shadow's Avatar
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    Flutter Butter
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    Malboro
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    OP why are you trying to join parties that aren't blue centric in the first place? Blue is extremely niche and not really built around normal content.
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  6. #26
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    Reneo's Avatar
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    Ying Fa
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I'm sorry to hear that people are kicking you out due to playing Blue Mage. But at the same time I feel the limitations that Blue Mage had is why they kicked you out. You are stuck at level 50 while they are probably level 70 and want to just clear the content fast and then leave. Blue Mage in this scenario acts similar to a leech in that regard.

    I think people have posted some advice about forming your own party and being specific about what you want to do. You can't expect everyone to welcome you with open arms as you are playing a job that isn't exactly beneficial to a group of level 70. (Even though I'm sure they should be able to solo most of the EX primals by now)
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  7. #27
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    To make sure don't get kicked I would make your own party in party finder.
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  8. #28
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think the same issue might be in play for anyone signing up to an undersized run with a Lv50 class, and simply expecting it to be okay. It's a logical thing that if someone is recruiting an undersized party, they're looking for overleveled characters who can blast through the fight, and if you're joining when you're just at the minimum level for the content, then that's not what they're looking for.

    Maybe they didn't explicitly ban you from joining in the first place, but there's still a degree of "what's expected" and it's not expected that a Lv50 player will join to run a Lv50 trial unsynched. It defeats the purpose of undersizing in the first place.

    It might be different if you sent a message and asked for permission to join.
    On this point, I would disagree. As the focus of this discussion is WT and EX runs, any player paying attention knows that the only way to get a clear for them is undersized PF. I've never had any trouble joining up for any of them, and was often welcomed at the time (yay, bonus tomes). Sure, I would often eat the floor on any mechanics pushed harder than squishy me could handle. But it wasn't as if I was seriously holding back the clear. At a point where a few 70s can get through easy enough, carrying a 50 or two isn't much of a burden.
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  9. #29
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Transient_Shadow View Post
    OP why are you trying to join parties that aren't blue centric in the first place? Blue is extremely niche and not really built around normal content.
    Im not.And if you had bothered to read thread you'd already know that.Ive merely stated that blue players are being kicked and excluded from content that can be completed by any lvl 50 jobs including blue mages.
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  10. #30
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    Skos's Avatar
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    Tater Thot
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    On this point, I would disagree. As the focus of this discussion is WT and EX runs, any player paying attention knows that the only way to get a clear for them is undersized PF. I've never had any trouble joining up for any of them, and was often welcomed at the time (yay, bonus tomes). Sure, I would often eat the floor on any mechanics pushed harder than squishy me could handle. But it wasn't as if I was seriously holding back the clear. At a point where a few 70s can get through easy enough, carrying a 50 or two isn't much of a burden.
    I think it's less about the ability of a group to carry a Blue Mage and more about someone joining a group that is not aimed at them hoping to get a quick and easy carry and maybe get a spell out of it.
    We call it entitlement.
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