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  1. #11
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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    When they raise level cap in a year or so if they want to have every BLU spell ever they will give us Auto Life. Which will auto resurrect us on death. And with how silly some of the skills are like Toad Oil and Missile I think much later Selfdestruct is going to get better and maybe Final Sting will see some use.
    Toad Oil + Off-guard + Bristle + Peculiar Light + Self-destruct generally takes down almost all non boss groups at once. Plus I've actually avoided a lot of primal attacks with Toad Oil before, that 20% evasion for 3 minutes is pretty nice and I'm sure it'll help a lot in the MC
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  2. #12
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Kisa Kisa
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    Excalibur
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    That's the point. Blu's not here to be balanced, hence why it's locked out of DF. It would not surprise me if in 5.0, Angel Whisper came as part of the next wave of spells and if it doesn't, the request for it might be large enough to sway SE into putting it in the game.
    I don't think they could make BLU balanced even if they chose to at a later date, because the strategy for using BLU is basically operating from the POV of being a monster. There is no way to setup a party where players would actively pick balanced skills, it would just be a dps race with one player having raise so they can use things like self destruct with impunity. Sure that might be the fastest/funnest way for the BLU to participate, but would also become the only meta people use.
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  3. #13
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Hyperion
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    Warrior Lv 100
    What they COULD do (or consider doing) with the suicide spells, it drop your HP down to 1, and turn it into weakness status like you were just raised. Sadly, outside of normal content, there's really nothing useful for it, such as dungeons (with 3 other members uncapped), trials, and the carnivale included. Something that could be re-worked into the system, if they do not plan to give the job auto-raise or raise casting magic skills.
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  4. #14
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi View Post
    it would just be a dps race with one player having raise so they can use things like self destruct with impunity. Sure that might be the fastest/funnest way for the BLU to participate, but would also become the only meta people use.
    Megumin from Konosuba approves of this method
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  5. #15
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    wereotter's Avatar
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Faerie
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by kikix12 View Post
    I hope for Angel's Whisper in future expansion, probably from the totems, actually.

    It's a healing spell that places re-raise status on the target. It would be perfect for a Blue Mage suicide spells. Especially if it would be spammable (with an MP cost to match).
    It would potentially self limit if the cost to cast a Life 3 style spell was high enough considering you'll come back with 0 mana when you raise (unless they change the way death is handled specifically for BLU) not to mention the increasingly lower DPS as you go to weakness then brink of death.
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  6. #16
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    It would potentially self limit if the cost to cast a Life 3 style spell was high enough considering you'll come back with 0 mana when you raise (unless they change the way death is handled specifically for BLU) not to mention the increasingly lower DPS as you go to weakness then brink of death.
    The best thing would be a tank-style death cheat. Long coldown skill that stops you dropping below 1 HP for x seconds.
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  7. #17
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Ultros
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Friend of mine in FFXI was actually named Voltorb. We made him unlock and level up BLU just to get self destruct for the purpose of screenshotting the message of him using it for later forum shenanigans.
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  8. #18
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    Vice Shark
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    Coeurl
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    It would potentially self limit if the cost to cast a Life 3 style spell was high enough considering you'll come back with 0 mana when you raise (unless they change the way death is handled specifically for BLU) not to mention the increasingly lower DPS as you go to weakness then brink of death.
    That seems fine to me. BLU still has to "obey the rules" of the game and if the devs do make Angel Whisper's mp requirement equal to other healers, suicide attacks would be left as finishers rather than spammable attacks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

  9. #19
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    Rein Tenebres
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    That seems fine to me. BLU still has to "obey the rules" of the game and if the devs do make Angel Whisper's mp requirement equal to other healers, suicide attacks would be left as finishers rather than spammable attacks.
    Transfusion lol
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    Greetings and salutations, adventurers.

  10. #20
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    Yu Sakurakoji
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    Lamia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    If you are in a party using Self Destruct with others within range, do everyone get killed at the same time?
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