Imma spill some glamour option tea a bit...

[Iscah]

From fantaing an alt I can say of BRD sets alone:
The female BRD AF1 set shirt has a deeeeeeep v for cleavage while the guy version is way more closed off
The femaleBRD AF2 set pants has 1 almost bare leg (attached to itty bitty bootyshorts) while the guy version is a regular pair of black tights
The femaleBRD AF3 set has a tiny skirt that hides under the coat while the guy version has a regular pair of pants

Oh yeah, the bard shirts. Or lack of shirt on the AF1. It's not just a deep V-neck, they literally removed the undershirt (though left the sleeves!) so there's only the vest with a single centre pin holding it closed.

And I'm really disappointed about the AF3 pants. They are gorgeous, and might as well not exist on the female set.

The other thing with the AF2 set (which does have a very deep V-neck, down to the stomach, although with a shawl draped across the chest) is that, despite being technically identical for male and female, the implications of dressing like that are different. It's more acceptable for a male character to have an open shirt like that, than a female character using the same style. (Everything is loosely fitted and a wardrobe malfunction is surely imminent!) And yet they keep doing it, and either add nothing for female modesty except maybe some straps (ie. this and the Infantry Shirt) or they add a bra. And having a visible bra is an entirely different implication to having a visible undershirt.

[BillyKaplan]

[Checks calendar] Oh it's time for this thread again I guess

males lack a particular anatomy to fill out Tifa's outfits ;p

Sure, if they give it the bunny outfit treatment and slap it as-is without any modifications. I'm not even talking about design changes so much as not making the chest parts look quite so much like bras. Which they understandably are for the women, but don't fit the men so much.

This game needs more skimpy male outfit options.

Louder for the people in the back

The thing about the outfits mentioned in the OP is that they were given as Veteran Awards. That means that they had to either give two outfits, one per available sex, or give us unisex options. As less people would approve of guys running around in Aerith's outfit than ladies running around in Cloud's, that's the solution they went with. That's also why Snow and Lightning are matches, as well as Yuna and Tidus - balance. I know you think you're asking for equality, but the end result would be the opposite.

[Rokke]

Oh yeah, the bard shirts. Or lack of shirt on the AF1. It's not just a deep V-neck, they literally removed the undershirt (though left the sleeves!) so there's only the vest with a single centre pin holding it closed.

And I'm really disappointed about the AF3 pants. They are gorgeous, and might as well not exist on the female set.

The other thing with the AF2 set (which does have a very deep V-neck, down to the stomach, although with a shawl draped across the chest) is that, despite being technically identical for male and female, the implications of dressing like that are different. It's more acceptable for a male character to have an open shirt like that, than a female character using the same style. (Everything is loosely fitted and a wardrobe malfunction is surely imminent!) And yet they keep doing it, and either add nothing for female modesty except maybe some straps (ie. this and the Infantry Shirt) or they add a bra. And having a visible bra is an entirely different implication to having a visible undershirt.

Looking at the two AF1 sets you are correct and now I dislike the male set even more ;-;

imo the saddest part of undershirts and filled in pant legs is that this is the perfect job for both genders to be impracticaly sexy and flamboyant cause thats what being a bard is all about.

[BillyKaplan]

imo the saddest part of undershirts and filled in pant legs is that this is the perfect job for both genders to be impracticaly sexy and flamboyant cause thats what being a bard is all about.

Yeah but you didn't get to roll Seduction on Varis so what's even the poinnt

[Lukha]

I'd love to see more Final Fantasy heroine outfits added to the game, with the condition that they are either available for EVERYONE to wear, like most of the male character outfits, or only released female-only alongside a comparable male-only set.

[PrincessMarbleSays]

No one asked yet. So sure lemme just post right in public instead of waiting for a message personally orfor someone to specifically ask for my discord.

HMMMMMMMMM

[PrincessMarbleSays]

Says to add her on discord for a voice chat and in the nature of having an adult discussion.

Doesn't even post a discord for people to take up her offer.

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edit: Personally not interested in having a chat about glamour options - just pointing out the one oddity that's standing out.

No ones asked for my discord yet.

[PrincessMarbleSays]

No ones asked for my discord yet.

Or is your advice to post my discord name publicly without anyone even remotely interested in speaking to me, just throw it up here and wait on all the people who won’t show up to discuss a simple topic that no one really seems interested in, because they wanna post about thumb emojis and discord names? Lemme get right on that.

[PrincessMarbleSays]

Or is your advice to post my name publicly without anyone even requesting to speak to me?

When someone bothers to say “hey I’m gunna take you up on that adult discussion let’s get in touch and chat.” I’ll add them on discord until then, I merely suggest a chat, that doesn’t require me to just post my name silly billy like your Ill advision says I should do in order to validate something irrelevant to you “KaivaC.”

[Penthea]

I won't argue that the majority of iconic FF glamour options are more catered to males, and that there is an imbalance there. But I cannot ignore how favored females are when it comes to overall glamour options in the game.

But there is a massive difference between having more iconic outfits for males, and having just more general glams for females. The Thavnairian Bustier is most certainly not a replacement for something like Rinoa's outfit.

I don't even like most of the female locked outfits, but I'd love to have any of the outfits from the female counterparts of the male non-XIV characters we have. But sadly all we have is Lightning which is not a veteran reward so it must be bought from the Mog Station, and Yuna which is no longer available.

There is a very clear imbalance of how glams are targeted, towards both male and female characters. There should not be significantly more male representation for non-XIV characters, and glams in general should not favour female characters more. Both should be equal.

And please no one talk to me about how male outfits are more gender neutral so that's why we should get more male FF outfits than female. That's basically telling players who play female characters that they should be happy with hand-me-downs just because society says it's fine for a woman to wear men's clothing. I don't care if Squall's outfit looks good on a woman. I don't want to dress up like Squall. I want to dress up like Rinoa.

Gender locking should be abolished anyway. Let everyone wear whatever they want with whatever hairstyle they want. More cosmetic options is always a good thing.