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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    From fantaing an alt I can say of BRD sets alone:
    The female BRD AF1 set shirt has a deeeeeeep v for cleavage while the guy version is way more closed off
    The femaleBRD AF2 set pants has 1 almost bare leg (attached to itty bitty bootyshorts) while the guy version is a regular pair of black tights
    The femaleBRD AF3 set has a tiny skirt that hides under the coat while the guy version has a regular pair of pants
    Oh yeah, the bard shirts. Or lack of shirt on the AF1. It's not just a deep V-neck, they literally removed the undershirt (though left the sleeves!) so there's only the vest with a single centre pin holding it closed.

    And I'm really disappointed about the AF3 pants. They are gorgeous, and might as well not exist on the female set.

    The other thing with the AF2 set (which does have a very deep V-neck, down to the stomach, although with a shawl draped across the chest) is that, despite being technically identical for male and female, the implications of dressing like that are different. It's more acceptable for a male character to have an open shirt like that, than a female character using the same style. (Everything is loosely fitted and a wardrobe malfunction is surely imminent!) And yet they keep doing it, and either add nothing for female modesty except maybe some straps (ie. this and the Infantry Shirt) or they add a bra. And having a visible bra is an entirely different implication to having a visible undershirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Oh yeah, the bard shirts. Or lack of shirt on the AF1. It's not just a deep V-neck, they literally removed the undershirt (though left the sleeves!) so there's only the vest with a single centre pin holding it closed.

    And I'm really disappointed about the AF3 pants. They are gorgeous, and might as well not exist on the female set.

    The other thing with the AF2 set (which does have a very deep V-neck, down to the stomach, although with a shawl draped across the chest) is that, despite being technically identical for male and female, the implications of dressing like that are different. It's more acceptable for a male character to have an open shirt like that, than a female character using the same style. (Everything is loosely fitted and a wardrobe malfunction is surely imminent!) And yet they keep doing it, and either add nothing for female modesty except maybe some straps (ie. this and the Infantry Shirt) or they add a bra. And having a visible bra is an entirely different implication to having a visible undershirt.
    Looking at the two AF1 sets you are correct and now I dislike the male set even more ;-;

    imo the saddest part of undershirts and filled in pant legs is that this is the perfect job for both genders to be impracticaly sexy and flamboyant cause thats what being a bard is all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    imo the saddest part of undershirts and filled in pant legs is that this is the perfect job for both genders to be impracticaly sexy and flamboyant cause thats what being a bard is all about.
    Yeah but you didn't get to roll Seduction on Varis so what's even the poinnt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    Looking at the two AF1 sets you are correct and now I dislike the male set even more ;-;

    imo the saddest part of undershirts and filled in pant legs is that this is the perfect job for both genders to be impracticaly sexy and flamboyant cause thats what being a bard is all about.
    Different tastes for different people, of course.... others have probably worked out by now that I'm not at all interested in "sexy" (I find it off-putting rather than appealing, for either gender) so I prefer the male version of the design. It's certainly still very flamboyant, and I think that's the important bit!

    I didn't like the AF1 on my female character because of the missing shirt, but I tried to make it work on my male alt - gave up on actually using it in the end because it was "too bright" (it has a lot of that pure white colour that stands out very brightly, and doesn't dye at all on that outfit, combined with a tall character making it even bigger and brighter!) and I prefer my characters to go adventuring in practical clothing, but I liked the design. It's also the one costume that made me decide he really needed fancy earrings to go with it!

    (Also I think the shirt would still be quite low on a female character, if they had it.)

    As chance would have it, I only got the Aoidos (AF2) set for him about two days ago and I really like it on him, so after the first part of this discussion, I went and tried it on again with my main character and.... hahaha no. The shawl covers less than I thought it did, and she's clearly not wearing anything underneath the shirt.

    The open front just seems a lot less noticable on the male character. It could be partly due to skin colour making it stand out differently, I guess, but it's also just not a concern for me in the same way.
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