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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Don't worry, I have healer friends who do their job excelently and don't have any "healers are martyrized heroes" complexes. When they're not available, I just heal duties myself.
    I love how saying "healers usually do more than just heal and boss tactics" means you're trying to make martyrs out of them. That acknowledging that the community expects more as a base must be an exaggeration.

    Well if that's the case I guess I must be a unicorn for also weaving in dps and using any non-healing utility? But then...that would mean I see unicorns a lot, because I see healers do this very often.

    Hmmm.

    Are you sure we're playing the same game?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    All just to play the "healer hero/martyr" card - healers do everything, they guarantee victory and they have to suffer through so much (when any reasonable person knows it's all 3 roles doing it, not just one.)
    Who said healers do "everything"? Is this you highlighting something no one said again? Like when you said "No, but apparently pretending most basic content is as hard as an Ex Trial or Savage is" when no one had said this at all?

    I'm starting to think you actually just dislike healers, so you pull stuff out of the air in an attempt to delegitimize them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I love how saying "healers usually do more than just heal and boss tactics" means you're trying to make martyrs out of them. That acknowledging that the community expects more as a base must be an exaggeration.

    Well if that's the case I guess I must be a unicorn for also weaving in dps and using any non-healing utility? But then...that would mean I see unicorns a lot, because I see healers do this very often.

    Hmmm.

    Are you sure we're playing the same game?.
    Oh excuse me. I didn't notice that you just entered the topic and have no clue of what people are talking about. I'm sure the main argument was that healers deserve rewards based solely on the kindness of the devs, and not the narrative that healers have to do so much all the time to ensure success of the party/alliance and they have to suffer so much. Protip: if everyone's doing their job, healers aren't shining ahead of the other two roles. So let's not use screw ups as an argument, when healers can screw up too and when there's also pretty lousy healers out there.



    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Who said healers do "everything"? Is this you highlighting something no one said again? Like when you said "No, but apparently pretending most basic content is as hard as an Ex Trial or Savage is" when no one had said this at all?
    Uuh, you did, remember? When you berated someone for saying healers only need to heal and do mechanics in most basic content ? Which you said was incorrect. Therefore, the logic conclusion is that most basic content equates Savage difficulty, where healers definitely can't afford to drop the ball... But yeah, let's pretend we haven't argued this already several pages ago and you're still hitting the same key after all of this...

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I'm starting to think you actually just dislike healers, so you pull stuff out of the air in an attempt to delegitimize them.
    Right, I hate healers while keeping my SCH geared up right after my RDM (main) and healing myself frequently...
    I'm starting to think you don't support rewards for all three roles after all, because you keep shilling and putting your favorite role on a pedestal, and being very disingenuous about things already discussed previously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    Uuh, you did, remember? When you berated someone for saying healers only need to heal and do mechanics in most basic content ? Which you said was incorrect. Therefore, the logic conclusion is that most basic content equates Savage difficulty, where healers definitely can't afford to drop the ball... But yeah, let's pretend we haven't argued this already several pages ago and you're still hitting the same key after all of this...
    Are you serious? You think content is literally only split into savage/ex and "the rest"? So then you think Bardam's Mettle is the same difficulty as Sastasha normal? You don't think there is anything resembling a difficulty curve in the game? You don't think the game gradually demands more from players as they lvl up?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    and healing myself frequently...
    Are you sure? Because you have some really funny ideas about how difficulty is balanced in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnSpawnVFX View Post
    I'm starting to think you don't support rewards for all three roles after all, because you keep shilling and putting your favorite role on a pedestal, and being very disingenuous about things already discussed previously.
    I didn't put my role on a pedestal, OP did. And how does me defending the legitimacy of my role mean I don't give a toss about the other two? I'm not allowed to care about multiple things?
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