Wrongful kicking people on third boss in new Ivalice raid

[InkstainedGwyn]

This is 100% true. Players in this game are very tolerant. If you get kicked, chances are very high that you deserved it. I've seen really bad people who were not kicked, who should have been kicked. It takes a lot for a group to collectively decide to kick someone.

My bottom line in this raid every time has been "don't vote abandon, if you want to leave tell your party and we'll kick you so you don't get the penalty." I want people to stay and learn. It might take me more time now, but it means that hopefully some folks will be returning next time with a better understanding.

That being said, I had to vote kick a cohealer on one run. I had them focus targeted to make sure I wasn't making a snap judgement, but in the whole first boss fight they cast a handful of cures and one medica II. Nothing else, no benedictions or tetras, no assizes or shields, no aero, no stone.

It'll be a week or two before I'm comfortable solo-healing Orbonne, sorry.

[SturmChurro]

This is 100% true. Players in this game are very tolerant. If you get kicked, chances are very high that you deserved it. I've seen really bad people who were not kicked, who should have been kicked. It takes a lot for a group to collectively decide to kick someone.

Very anecdotal. You would be surprised how many wrongful kicks do actually go out.

[AxlStream]

Very anecdotal. You would be surprised how many wrongful kicks do actually go out.

If they go out are they actually wrong though?

[SenorPatty]

If they go out are they actually wrong though?

Suddenly, I just remembered the pld-boyfriends and whm-girlfriends who are beyond reproach from bad play.

Thankfully I don't encounter them often but god forbid I manage to end up in such a party with the 3rd person being their guild member or just a clueless person who thinks someone mentioning to turn on the tank stance to hold aggro is toxic.

/shiver

[SmokeyTheSequel]

Mass influx of a certain playerbase from another community bringing their toxicity with them. Always praised our community for being decent a majority of the time.

[AxlStream]

Nah, last I checked our community was notoriously bad skill wise.Maybe that influx of player can bring the bar up a bit, not like it'd be hard.

[LalaRu]

...Maybe that influx of player can bring the bar up a bit, not like it'd be hard.

But the price to pay for it may be a bit high, 'tho.

[Nora_of_Mira]

Suddenly, I just remembered the pld-boyfriends and whm-girlfriends who are beyond reproach from bad play.

Thankfully I don't encounter them often but god forbid I manage to end up in such a party with the 3rd person being their guild member or just a clueless person who thinks someone mentioning to turn on the tank stance to hold aggro is toxic.

/shiver

i've experienced this as well. almost every couple I've knowingly ran into in FFxiv have been notoriously bad and over defensive. they're the type that only runs content when together and (from my perspective) never go very far past dungeon-level content. not saying theres anything wrong with this, do w/e you want, but the RP in dungeons gets pretty cringey.

[AxlStream]

But the price to pay for it may be a bit high, 'tho.

Oh I am more than ready to pay it. Even twice or thrice even. Our average player is just that bad.

[SmokeyTheSequel]

Oh I am more than ready to pay it. Even twice or thrice even. Our average player is just that bad.

It is no different in any other game.