Suggestion: healer-based incentives/rewards

[Penthea]

Just because one does actions to fill in the gaps within a party as a Healer, doesn't make it the exclusively tied to the Healer role

Literally nobody said this. We are merely trying to dispell the myth that the healer role is just press heals and do boss tactics.

Any other actions, responsibilities, "covering", etc. are beyond the advertised role of the healer and instead shows that such efforts (that may be perceived as "above-and-beyond") reflects the player and not the role. Such a player would be "above-and-beyond" in almost any role they take since they have the capabilities and understanding of their role's toolbox.

For example: using the "Rescue" action to pull out another player from the AOE shows that the Rescuer would do the same action if Rescue was not only tied to the healer role.

How sad it is that someone thinks that using your class/role's kit appropriately means going above and beyond.

Going above and beyond is doing things like frequently healing and raising people in other alliances, keeping a severely undergeared chain pulling tank alive and not leaving the group, solo healing content designed for two healers, often using stuns and silence to interrupt mobs. Not pressing one role action button.

Don't confuse doing the bare minimum with what is actually expected of healers.

Healer's are only required to heal and perform mechanics, as such their role is advertised.

So I guess that means I don't have to res anymore? No more casting mitigation abilities because they're not heals? No more Fey Wind? No Chain Strat? Not even a tiny bit of dps?

[Xtrasweettea]

Literally nobody said this. We are merely trying to dispell the myth that healing is literally press heals and do boss tactics. Don't confuse the bare minimum with what is actually expected of healers.

Correct, no one literally said that. It was implied above.

That isn't to say tanking isn't challenging. It is. But saying healers "just have to heal and follow mechanics" is so false. We're constantly expected to and have to make up for the shortcomings of others.

That is from you, by the way.
If you stated that, other roles also have to make up for shortcomings of other people, this conversation would have never happened.

How sad it is that someone thinks that using your class/role's kit appropriately means going above and beyond.

Welcome to FF14 where people can’t even do their advertised roles, let alone use their whole toolbox. You have read that huge thread here on the forums where people vent about DR/DF, right?

Going above and beyond is doing things like frequently healing and raising people in other alliances, keeping a severely undergeared chain pulling tank alive and not leaving the group, solo healing content designed for two healers, often using stuns and silence to interrupt mobs. Not pressing one role action button.

You apparently didn’t read what I stated about “above-and-beyond.”
Here:

Any other actions, responsibilities, "covering", etc. are beyond the advertised role of the healer and instead shows that such efforts (that may be perceived as "above-and-beyond") reflects the player and not the role. Such a player would be "above-and-beyond" in almost any role they take since they have the capabilities and understanding of their role's toolbox.

Note the words that are in plural (example: responsibilities) and note the word “toolbox.” Both indicate the player being able to use multiple actions, not just one.

So I guess that means I don't have to res anymore? No more casting mitigation abilities because they're not heals? No more Fey Wind? No Chain Strat? Not even a tiny bit of dps?

Ah, my fault for laying out this statement incorrectly and not stating “healer oriented duties” and just stated “healing.” Though that, might have been done on subconsciously on purpose. I have been raised more by SMNs and RDMs in Eureka than Healers so, yeah, me being raised by a healer is now above-and-beyond. Just realized that. Thanks for asking your emotionally fueled question.

As for your other attempts to “own” within your question: as long as you can keep someone vertical, congrats, you did your advertised role.

[Penthea]

Correct, no one literally said that. It was implied above.

No, people said that healers need to do more than just heal and boss mechanics. Not that only healers have to do more than basic requirements. Not the same thing.

That is from you, by the way.
If you stated that, other roles also have to make up for shortcomings of other people, this conversation would have never happened.

How does me reminding a tank that healers must do more than heal and boss tactics means I said only healers must do more than basic requirements? I did not even vaguely imply other roles don't have other jobs outside of their basic requirements. I was correcting his misconception about healers. Not every class in the game.

It appears that when someone says "healers must do X" you automatically read it as "only healers do X".

[JohnSpawnVFX]

No, people said that healers need to do more than just heal and boss mechanics. Not that only healers have to do more than basic requirements. Not the same thing.



How does me reminding a tank that healers must do more than heal and boss tactics means I said only healers must do more than basic requirements? I did not even vaguely imply other roles don't have other jobs outside of their basic requirements. I was correcting his misconception about healers. Not every class in the game.

It appears that when someone says "healers must do X" you automatically read it as "only healers do X".

You did the same thing you're accusing someone else of doing.

What was said was "Most healers usually just really need to heal and folllow mechanics as necessary just to get most of the basic content done.". You're acting as if they said "All healers just need to only heal and do mechanics to get anything done.".