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  1. #441
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    Duskane's Avatar
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    Dusk Himmel
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHeavenAbyss View Post
    One thing that I found weird was how they talked about Viera. I mean, if we do get to play as Viera, new players will get to play that race from beginning of the game (unless SE changes something about that). You, as a new player playing a Viera (maybe a male Viera even), advance through everything and then you get to the Ivalice raids, only to talk to a guy who says he never saw a male Viera and everyone talks about Viera as if you were not there. They'll probably change the text a little bit if you are a Viera, but I just thought it was something funny to think about.
    normally its for jobs but sometimes there are race specific dialogue
    like for the Monster hunter event
    if you are a miqote and answer "a talking cat!?" the palico will go "look whos talking"
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  2. #442
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    Lluw Tharias
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duskane View Post
    normally its for jobs but sometimes there are race specific dialogue
    like for the Monster hunter event
    if you are a miqote and answer "a talking cat!?" the palico will go "look whos talking"
    Yeah, those work pretty well. But with the Ivalice raid, doesn't the party go after Fran because, besides her calling them, she, as a Viera, will be able to guide them through the woods without getting into trouble with the other Vieras? I think that would need some more changes to the dialogue than simple changing a sentence. Can you imagine playing as a Viera and everyone is saying "if only we had a Viera..." for a while and standing around like you don't have massive ears coming out of your hair xD

    But I guess it can be changed if they only add a scene where they talk about needing a Viera to help them, turning to the WoL a asking him/her "Can you help with this?" and the WoL just shakes his/her head with a sad expression, so they turn to Fran.

    A similar problem, but more difficult, would probably happen if you introduced a race like Burmecians or other more beast-like race. Everytime people talk crap about beastmen in the story (or call Qiqirn "rats"), you stand around silently thinking "I take offense to that..." lol
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    Last edited by TheHeavenAbyss; 01-10-2019 at 12:36 AM.

  3. #443
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aellae View Post
    Yep yep.
    Miqo'te lore also stated and still says both that the males are rarely found and also that Miqo'te overall is not a very populated race. If we look at the Eorzea created by the players, that is absolutely not true. We do know now that male Viera exist (albeit rare) so nothing speaks against players creating them.
    It's even mentioned at multiple points during the quests that there's been an increasing number of viera leaving the jungles in the last several years. If anything I'd consider that a point strongly in favor of males outnumbering females outside of that delta, as they'd be more likely to see the imminent threats to their way of life.
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  4. #444
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheHeavenAbyss View Post
    Yeah, those work pretty well. But with the Ivalice raid, doesn't the party go after Fran because, besides her calling them, she, as a Viera, will be able to guide them through the woods without getting into trouble with the other Vieras? I think that would need some more changes to the dialogue than simple changing a sentence. Can you imagine playing as a Viera and everyone is saying "if only we had a Viera..." for a while and standing around like you don't have massive ears coming out of your hair xD
    This would be similar to the Yurigi scene where she talks about her appearance being unsettling so she stays covered meanwhile, you could be standing there playing as an aura and nothing else changes.
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  5. #445
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    Lluw Tharias
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoroCookies View Post
    This would be similar to the Yurigi scene where she talks about her appearance being unsettling so she stays covered meanwhile, you could be standing there playing as an aura and nothing else changes.
    Oh, that's right, I forgot about that. Well, I believe SE might tweak dialogue a bit if you play Viera in these scenes, only because there seems to be some more concern with that kind of stuff recently, but otherwise it might not matter that much to them and leave them as they are, just like with that Yugiri scene and others already mentioned.
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  6. #446
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    Novia Marius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    It doesn't sound like males have much of a life in Viera society at all. It sounds pretty bad, to be honest. what sort of "important position" is living alone, being forced to make your own stuff in isolation, only coming back to your hometown for procreation, and not even stay for the kid? You become little more than an object to not even be talked about.
    Its not too far off lore-wise from the lives of male miqote: For suncats you'd stick around your tribe if you're the breeding male but theres no reason to stay if you're not or if you don't plan on gunning for it. For mooncats you'd only come into miqo settlements when its time to make mikittens and then stroll back into the wilderness when you're done.

    Not particularly great lives by any means, but they make a good starting point to explain why your character would ditch a traditional life to be an adventurer if you roleplay :P
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  7. #447
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    Look at data mined appearance

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  8. #448
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    I hope they have a muscle tone slider like Hyur...
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  9. #449
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    depends tbh if there small and cute nope if there tall and fierce then yes i love my roe so much but yea if there the viera i want then yup ill change
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  10. #450
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    Antony Gabbiani
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    Its not too far off lore-wise from the lives of male miqote: For suncats you'd stick around your tribe if you're the breeding male but theres no reason to stay if you're not or if you don't plan on gunning for it. For mooncats you'd only come into miqo settlements when its time to make mikittens and then stroll back into the wilderness when you're done.

    Not particularly great lives by any means, but they make a good starting point to explain why your character would ditch a traditional life to be an adventurer if you roleplay :P
    I dunno..... I mean I know a few men who'd be into that life
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