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[Shirosama]

I think people are panicking and throwing a B**** fit way too soon over BLU. See what the devs do with it and how it changes going into 4.5 (part2) on into Shadow bringers. If nothing is done with it at least going into Shadow bringers ( i.e making at a full job that can raid etc) then be worried about it. Since its SIGNIFICANTLY different to literally every other job on the roster it from a development standpoint I can see where the difficulty would lay in properly balancing it. Because let's admit it depending on the skills it has its basically EVERY job class Dps, Healer and Tank.

Anyways my two cents on the subject either we can sit here and cry about it being restricted (for now as they have said there are plans to raise its cap in 4.5 part 2 and beyond) or we can let it be and see if they implement it right and it becomes a worthy and helpful part of the job classes. Just remember we have 2 (Possibly 3) classes coming in Shadow bringers I think we should be thinking about what those may be and how they will fit in with current classes rather than a job that will start low but give us a chance to tell the dev team how it can and should be implemented with the other jobs once the expansion launches.

[Elerus]

I think people are panicking and throwing a B**** fit way too soon over BLU.

And yet those some people "throwing a fit" have been right again and again. I also don't get where BLU is "SIGNIFICANTLY" different to literally every other job. In fact what is irritating me at the moment is that from what I see we are neither getting an "unlimited Blue Ultimate Class Fantasy" OR an actual fully featured class. Square, as usual, played this as tepidly and safely as possible and this implementation of BLU is nothing but milquetoast mediocrity. Enemies being immune to death, skills being modified from the monster originals, a "soft" forced rotation due to power chaining and MP costs, learning spells from tokens . . . it's like Square had this vision, walked back on almost all of it, and then attempted to justify their design decisions by the thing they THOUGHT they were originally going to design but aren't actually creating anymore.

Well, I guess it could be worse. They could've used the dev time to blow tens of millions on a in-house custom game engine only to scrap it after two games. Baby steps.

[Shirosama]

And yet those some people "throwing a fit" have been right again and again. I also don't get where BLU is "SIGNIFICANTLY" different to literally every other job. In fact what is irritating me at the moment is that from what I see we are neither getting an "unlimited Blue Ultimate Class Fantasy" OR an actual fully featured class. Square, as usual, played this as tepidly and safely as possible and this implementation of BLU is nothing but milquetoast mediocrity. Enemies being immune to death, skills being modified from the monster originals, a "soft" forced rotation due to power chaining and MP costs, learning spells from tokens . . . it's like Square had this vision, walked back on almost all of it, and then attempted to justify their design decisions by the thing they THOUGHT they were originally going to design but aren't actually creating anymore.

Well, I guess it could be worse. They could've used the dev time to blow tens of millions on a in-house custom game engine only to scrap it after two games. Baby steps.

So you've seen what they have down the pike for the implementation of BLU? I mean like you've seen the exact layout of what they are going to do? No? oh ok..., I understand people are "nervous" , "scared" whatever but seriously the instant bashing on how its being implemented is ridiculous at this point and i say that because EVERYTIME a new job has been put in people start these threads complaining and then the job ends up being extremely useful and we see no more issues ( aside from balancing complains which there will always be) until the next set of jobs come out then we'll revisit this same kind of thread. Lest we forget the complaints about AST , SAM, RDM , DRK , MCH , NIN when those first were announced yeah they weren't limited but people had nearly the exact same complaints that they do about BLU to a extent.

[Elerus]

So you've seen what they have down the pike for the implementation of BLU? I mean like you've seen the exact layout of what they are going to do? No? oh ok..., I understand people are "nervous" , "scared" whatever but seriously the instant bashing on how its being implemented is ridiculous at this point and i say that because EVERYTIME a new job has been put in people start these threads complaining

So, to answer in order:

1) Yes! Moreover, as an added bonus you can too by checking the handy link I posted above.

2) Blue Mage is - for better or worse - the first of its kind. It is not a new job, and will never be useful as presently implemented in the same aspects as any of those other real jobs you listed.

[Liale]

I think people are panicking and throwing a B**** fit way too soon over BLU. See what the devs do with it and how it changes going into 4.5 (part2) on into Shadow bringers. If nothing is done with it at least going into Shadow bringers ( i.e making at a full job that can raid etc) then be worried about it. Since its SIGNIFICANTLY different to literally every other job on the roster it from a development standpoint I can see where the difficulty would lay in properly balancing it. Because let's admit it depending on the skills it has its basically EVERY job class Dps, Healer and Tank.

Anyways my two cents on the subject either we can sit here and cry about it being restricted (for now as they have said there are plans to raise its cap in 4.5 part 2 and beyond) or we can let it be and see if they implement it right and it becomes a worthy and helpful part of the job classes. Just remember we have 2 (Possibly 3) classes coming in Shadow bringers I think we should be thinking about what those may be and how they will fit in with current classes rather than a job that will start low but give us a chance to tell the dev team how it can and should be implemented with the other jobs once the expansion launches.

The problem with what you just said is that you are completely ignoring where they straight up said it would never hit full lvl cap at the same time as anything else. You are saying lets wait and hope that they don't do what they already said they are going to do as if they never said they were going to do it. If that comes off as convoluted it's because i'm having to dance around the convolution that is your logic. They have stated that it is not and never will be an actual job. It is a minigame hiding under the title of job. So go ahead and wait to see how a minigame designed by the se devs turns out. Diadem, Verminion, Triple Triad, The Gold Saucer, and for most Chocobo Racing, all dead failures.

[Lufir]

The Gold Saucer and TT is dead? That's hilarious. The Gold Saucer is currently more active than Binding Coil, so does that mean Coil should be considered a dead failure? I noticed a trend where people like to equate dead content to things that they don't particularly enjoy.

[Liale]

The Gold Saucer and TT is dead? That's hilarious. The Gold Saucer is currently more active than Binding Coil, so does that mean Coil should be considered a dead failure? I noticed a trend where people like to equate dead content to things that they don't particularly enjoy.

Idk what gold saucer you play in but any time I go in there the only thing that is ever done is the cactpot, jumbo cactpot, people selling cards for mgp to free up inventory space, and people doing fashion report after someone releases what the clothing items are that week on reddit or twitter. That is four activities out of all of the activities available. None of them take more than a few minuets each week. Teleport in, teleport out.

[Reynhart]

The problem with what you just said is that you are completely ignoring where they straight up said it would never hit full lvl cap at the same time as anything else.

Too bad that's absolutely not what they said :

It might be difficult to expect the level cap to reach level 80 during 5.0.

Game watch: Will BLUs catch up to level 80 during 5.x?
Yoshida: If we keep raising the level cap with that pace, us developers and players will all faint (bitter smile).

Nothing in there says "never", unless you count the same "never" people assumed when asked if we'd ever have a Blue Mage or if they would ever release a job mid-expansion. At best, it says that it will be difficult to raise the level cap 30 levels higher during the course of 5.x.

But if BLU has its level cap raised by 20 levels while others gains 10 levels, it can be on par with everything in early 6.x.

[Shirosama]

The problem with what you just said is that you are completely ignoring where they straight up said it would never hit full lvl cap at the same time as anything else. You are saying lets wait and hope that they don't do what they already said they are going to do as if they never said they were going to do it. If that comes off as convoluted it's because i'm having to dance around the convolution that is your logic. They have stated that it is not and never will be an actual job. It is a minigame hiding under the title of job. So go ahead and wait to see how a minigame designed by the se devs turns out. Diadem, Verminion, Triple Triad, The Gold Saucer, and for most Chocobo Racing, all dead failures.

Cept they never said that. you need to read again and not put words in the dev's mouths

[Liale]

Cept they never said that. you need to read again and not put words in the dev's mouths

They did say it, during the fanfest live letter, I don't have to put words in their mouths when they already did it themselves.