/vape emote

[TaranTatsuuchi]

If I'm not mistaken that would fall under the 'Alcohol/Drug/Tobacco Reference' rating, whereas the game is rated for 'Alcohol/Tobacco Use'. I'm still standing by the notion that the rating of the game would not change. Perhaps in other countries with different rating systems, but not here in the states.

I was only pointing out that there can be a distinction.
Your claim said there couldn't be a difference, but as you so helpfully pointed out, there are different standards for how it is depicted.

[DamianFatale]

My state legalized all that stuff, so I say bring it on. A vape emote would be awesome.

[KisaiTenshi]

Wow, I'm surprised to see so many opposing the idea, when the game itself already has that element in relevant places.

The same reason the Korean's don't want Dice emotes. (Promotes gambling.) In the US and Canada smoking/vaping is a rude and gross behavior.

Just because it exist in game, doesn't mean it should exist for the user. In one of the rating systems, any character that is not an historical reference can not smoke or the rating goes up to the equivalent of R. See this: https://variety.com/2018/politics/ne...aa-1202855426/

[Hestzhyen]

As silly as it might seem there is a stark difference in the ratings depending on who is performing the action.

If it's an NPC (particularly a Bad Guy) doing the dismemberment/genocide/bloody murder, then as long as it's not explicit, the game can get away with a T rating (and if it's only obliquely referenced maybe even E10). In most cases if it's the player doing it, no matter how censored it is it will be M.
If it's an NPC doing the suggestive themes/sexy time stuff, it can be a T if it's implied or not directly shown. If the player is doing it then the chances of being M go way up regardless of how censored or "tame" it is.
See the pattern?

Regardless of the fact that most people can distinguish games from reality, the perception that the player-controlled character performing undesirable/unhealthy acts normalizes the player to performing those acts IRL is strong. Especially when the game is targeted to a younger audience that may not be legally allowed to perform those activities. I don't care whether or not we get a /smoke emote, but I can see why SE would choose to avoid the situation altogether by not adding one.

[Raikai]

Thanks a lot for the clarification on the ratings, I had no idea of such complexities.

[ElazulHP]

I love that you say more realistic, but I have never, not once seen a single person keel over dead from vaping to much. With this logic, the Moogles we see drinking in the beginning of the game should die from liver failure, Aymeric should be checked into rehab for drinking wine, and every single npc who smokes a pipe should be hospitalized for lung cancer. A little much don't you think? With your logic the WoL should be arrested for animal cruelty and obstruction of justice.

You must have missed the news stories about the teen that almost died after only vaping for three weeks due to developing 'Wet Lung'. Or what about the guy that died from having his vape pen explode in his face sending shrapnel into it. I grew up around smokers don't tell me it doesn't have health consequences. I've seen the very real consequences of smoking and watched people unable to walk up a single set of stairs because they can't breathe. It's horrifying. If ya'll want to screw up your life with that stuff by all means, but don't come at me saying it's not realistic because you never seen the consequences yourself. Educate yourself please.

[tymora]

Be funny if a NPC walks up to you and says "Don't do that" every time you do the emote.

[Kyuuen]

I was only pointing out that there can be a distinction.
Your claim said there couldn't be a difference, but as you so helpfully pointed out, there are different standards for how it is depicted.

I never said anything about there not being a difference. I said there wouldn't be a difference in the rating of the game as to E, T, M etc. And there wouldn't be.

And yes, I get that there can be a distinction between the qualifiers that make up a rating. As I said there's 'Alcohol/Drug/Tobacco Reference' and 'Alcohol/Drug/Tobacco Usage' and of those two 'Usage' is the more severe of the two qualifiers. So even that wouldn't change as the game is already under the 'Usage' qualifier.

[Mwynn]

You must have missed the news stories about the teen that almost died after only vaping for three weeks due to developing 'Wet Lung'. Or what about the guy that died from having his vape pen explode in his face sending shrapnel into it.

Probably false Propaganda as usual, it's the same Story for the "Popcorn Lung" Theory, totally believable...

One should know better about "Battery Safety", I saw plenty People using 10-15 Ampere Batteries in Mech Mods running between 0,08 to 0,15 Ohm's.
Sure the Battery ventilates, that's normal, hence you should learn Ohm's Law when you use Mech Mods.

Battery Safety also applies on regulated Mods, such as Mods in Pen Style.
If you use damaged Batteries or the Plus Pol has no insolator, I'm not surprised those things go up into the air.

No science if Metall, like a Key being loose in your pocket .. together with that Battery, gets a connection between Plus and Minus.

It's simply not clever to get a E-Cigarette that has zero ventile holes into it.
Sorry but if a Battery is venting and there is no way to release the Pressure, that Person was simply stupid.

[Melichoir]

The game already displays characters who use pipes pretty overtly. There is a furnishing of a cigar. The game implies explicitly the use of both smoking and alcohol as it were. Having an emote where your character can light up is a 'non-issue' in the sense that its not promoting anything.

Rather itd be fun and fair to have said emotes simply because it adds character to our characters. Or atleast the potential. While I myself am not a smoker of any kind or substance, its partly head canon for my character to smoke on occasion. Thats who she is. Im old enough to know the difference.

Frankly the idea of not wanting in the game usually stems more from this notion that "little kids will take up smoking" more so than any other argument one can provide (considering that I hazard most adults wont start lighting up for the first time just a game has an emote.) And the 'kids' argument is fairly flimsy at best. I mean under that same argument, we should have kids riding motorcycles, running around with swords and bows shooting and stabbing things, drinking copious amounts of alcohol, and etc. But we dont. Why? Cause kids arent going to take up smoking just because a game gave us an emote for it, much like almost everything else.

If they want to be SUPER SAFE, just age gate it. Have everyone put in a DOB and then only people above 16 can use the emote. That should work perfectly. /s