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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post

    It's not "just nomenclature" and they're not the same thing. The debate over relative health impacts aside, "vaping" is a specific modern alternative to smoking, and does not at all imply the "smoking a pipe" animation that you're actually asking for.
    I meant, in my case... I just thought the word "vape" would be less aggravating than "smoke", since it's a fiction environment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raikai View Post
    I meant, in my case... I just thought the word "vape" would be less aggravating than "smoke", since it's a fiction environment.
    They're not synonymous, though. It's not a more polite way of saying the same thing, it's a separate (although related) thing they don't do in that fictional environment, or in the time period the setting is primarily based on.

    Granted, there are all sorts of strange high-tech things working their way into the story, but it's still not the same thing as the existing NPC emote of smoking a pipe. There is no vapour in that pipe. It is smoke. Therefore they are not vaping, they are smoking.
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    https://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.aspx

    Alcohol Reference - Reference to and/or images of alcoholic beverages
    Animated Blood - Discolored and/or unrealistic depictions of blood
    Blood - Depictions of blood
    Blood and Gore - Depictions of blood or the mutilation of body parts
    Cartoon Violence - Violent actions involving cartoon-like situations and characters. May include violence where a character is unharmed after the action has been inflicted
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    Language - Mild to moderate use of profanity
    Lyrics - Mild references to profanity, sexuality, violence, alcohol or drug use in music
    Mature Humor - Depictions or dialogue involving "adult" humor, including sexual references
    Nudity - Graphic or prolonged depictions of nudity
    Partial Nudity - Brief and/or mild depictions of nudity
    Real Gambling - Player can gamble, including betting or wagering real cash or currency
    Sexual Content - Non-explicit depictions of sexual behavior, possibly including partial nudity
    Sexual Themes - References to sex or sexuality
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    Simulated Gambling - Player can gamble without betting or wagering real cash or currency
    Strong Language - Explicit and/or frequent use of profanity
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    Strong Sexual Content - Explicit and/or frequent depictions of sexual behavior, possibly including nudity
    Suggestive Themes - Mild provocative references or materials
    Tobacco Reference - Reference to and/or images of tobacco products
    Use of Alcohol - The consumption of alcoholic beverages
    Use of Drugs - The consumption or use of illegal drugs
    Use of Tobacco - The consumption of tobacco products
    Violence - Scenes involving aggressive conflict. May contain bloodless dismemberment
    Violent References - References to violent acts

    Honestly I think the current ESRB is currently off in terms of use. I would say it's Tobacco Reference, not Use of Tobacco.
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    Who cares if you dont smoke, I dont but it might be cool to stand somewhere smoking a pipe. Its just an emote, this world to becoming so sensitive to everything.

    Also dont forget all the numerous things our WoL does throughout their journey. I remember drugging moggles in their quest chain like I was Bill Cosby.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    Who cares if you dont smoke, I dont but it might be cool to stand somewhere smoking a pipe. Its just an emote, this world to becoming so sensitive to everything.

    Also dont forget all the numerous things our WoL does throughout their journey. I remember drugging moggles in their quest chain like I was Bill Cosby.
    Like I said earlier in the thread, I'm not opposed to the idea. They could add it and I wouldn't really bat an eye. I'm just not sure how they'd handle it in every country that allows people to play this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas-04 View Post
    Who cares if you dont smoke, I dont but it might be cool to stand somewhere smoking a pipe. Its just an emote, this world to becoming so sensitive to everything.

    Also dont forget all the numerous things our WoL does throughout their journey. I remember drugging moggles in their quest chain like I was Bill Cosby.
    Never doubt the power of over zealous parenting groups who've never played games before.
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    I would...

    Sitting Emotes based on class weapons (think samurai sitting cross legged inspecting their katana and cleaning it, or a Summoner/Scholar with their book out reading it in a sitting position)
    Eating Food emote while sitting
    Drinking Tea/Beverage emote while sitting
    emote for smoking
    a doze/sleep emote that works outside of a bed
    a chair sitting emote that isnt specific to seats but can be done for use on any ledge
    Both male and female weapon variations for a character when posing with weapon drawn
    a yawn emote
    a rude emote
    a drunk emote
    a hold pose option so certain emotes remain indefinitely in a certain position if we want them too

    Thats all I can think of off the top of my head, but itd be nice to have some of these
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    Rating argument is moot, there are other games rated T where the player can smoke. Lord of the Rings online is probably the closest comparison to this game, that has a smoking emote.

    I personally would like to have a /smoke or /pipe emote, especially if it was persistent. Would be good to use for when I go on smoke breaks :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Rating argument is moot, there are other games rated T where the player can smoke. Lord of the Rings online is probably the closest comparison to this game, that has a smoking emote.

    I personally would like to have a /smoke or /pipe emote, especially if it was persistent. Would be good to use for when I go on smoke breaks :P
    One could say using the "another game does it, we should be able to do it too!" is also kind of a moot argument since those games are not controlled or owned by SE. What one company does, does not mean all companies should do it too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    One could say using the "another game does it, we should be able to do it too!" is also kind of a moot argument since those games are not controlled or owned by SE. What one company does, does not mean all companies should do it too.
    I was never arguing that case, my case was to earlier posts saying that they can't implement tobacco use without changing the games rating. I merely provided a case where having a /smoke emote didn't cause a game to have to change its rating.

    While I would personally enjoy a smoke emote in game, that is ultimately a decision left to the developers. As to the odds of it happening, I am unsure but positive since smoking in Europe and Asia is more popular atm than in America. Source
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