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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    WoW is in an interesting position.
    For many years, it was a labor of love for the devs. It succeeded for so long and did so incredibly well because they did exactly what you're asking XIV to do: Learn from competitors (And steal addons to improve the default UI, lol). .
    WoW basically brought in Jeff Kaplan, one of their early designers, because he was critiquing Everquest's systems on their forums. They saw this potential and his value and brought him in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    Last Blizzcon revealed they dragged all their 'best' talent away to work on mobile games (Cheap, nasty, profit cash cows) and leaving the other games to be as saturated as possible with microtransactions (Or for Destiny's case, where they outright said they're trying to milk whats left of the playerbase).
    What kills me about that situation is they've decided to work with a company that was actively ripping off their WoW and Diablo assets in their Crusader of Light https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=41XpjeCRrsk game

    Quote Originally Posted by Sylve View Post
    The mere fact that they can experiment like they have with Eureka and Blue Mage speaks volumes for the creative freedoms SE seems to given Yoshi-P.
    My issue with that statement is the developers punished the players in Pagos who didn't play Eureka Anemos the way they wanted it played. It was pretty blatant.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 01-01-2019 at 02:59 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Adrestia Skyborn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    WoW basically brought in Jeff Kaplan, one of their early designers, because he was critiquing Everquest's systems on their forums. They saw this potential and his value and brought him in.
    Exactly the same story with Alex Afrasiabi, aka Furor Planedefiler. Good old Furor was a loudmouth impassioned ragemonster about problems with EverQuest, but that's because he loved the game and pushed the envelope in every way possible. He went from a very important but not-at-all-game-development career to a long career on WoW because the old Blizzard knew they needed people who "got it," not sterile public relations.

    The new angle is basically "make the game lukewarm for everyone, because a larger audience means more potential cash shop buyers." They know they lose some people to attrition, boredom, and outrage, but they keep a lot more by not rocking the boat in ways that most people notice.

    But cash shops run by companies we love are great and we should love them and support them and thank them for emptying our wallets.
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