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[Fyce]

I wrote out a long reply because I was bored on the train, but it got deleted due to signal dropping and I can't be bothered to type it all out again.
Basically: There is evidence of them changing their mind about jobs, see drk/war/mch
Im saying the 70% number is worthless if we dont know where its from, so until its sourced, the forums are the only way we can gauge albeit a shite one
And thats like, your opinion, don't need to act so aggressive and superior, theres more constructive ways other than ""objectively silly", like its not, in your opinion which is no way objective its silly. People expect criticism on the internet but in a discussion they at least expect it to be constructive not just "ur wrong and entitled".
Also last page I thought you said you were done with this, clearly not.

There was no evidence of them going to change their minds about Blue Mage. Evidence of them changing DRK or whatever is not evidence to support a change of stance regarding a completly different matter. That's what my analogy was about, you didn't get it unfortunatly.

The "70%" is from the game's director. You may think it's a worthless piece of data, but that data is not for you. You being unhappy about their audit methods is irrelevant, they won't change them for you if the results are not going in your way. Yoshida basically said "we're happy with the feedback we got". You have no weight in deciding if they are satisfied or not.

For the fifth time, I already gave "constructive criticism" about the "MMORPG" argument. Besides, yes, I can very well say that people are wrong and entitled if I think they are. And yes, playing a theme park mmorpg and not accepting theme park mmorpg activities and wanting to remove them even if other people might have fun with is is silly and egoistic. If you don't see why, that's not my problem.
Edit: Just to make it clear, you are currently defending an opinion where people think of themselves so high that they don't care if they end up stripping other player's enjoyment out of the game. And you basically are asking me to play the "nice guy" card and not to "act superior". Not a chance. I despise people who only care about themselves while not giving a damn if they hurt others in the process. And you are actively defending these people right now, against the "ass, bad and superior acting" me. If they want to argue with me, let them, they don't need a white knight.

As for me being done, I told that to Alleo about the argument we had. I never told that to you. Did you think you'd get a free card at being insulting without me answering? Good try.

[BillyKaplan]

I despise people who only care about themselves while not giving a damn if they hurt others in the process.

You need to take a good look at your posts in this thread then.

And yes, playing a theme park mmorpg and not accepting theme park mmorpg activities and wanting to remove them even if other people might have fun with is is silly and egoistic.

But hardly anyone wants to remove the Masked Carnival element and the spellbook log. The complaints are requests for adding content to the game in the form of BLU as an unlimited, proper job. And you have made your claim why you don't think that would work or that they devs shouldn't invest in it, but that's neither here nor there. Unless I missed some crusade to get Masked Carnival burned down since last time I posted here, no one wants to take anything away from anyone, at least not on the side of people who want to see BLU unlocked.

[ReiMakoto]

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You're shifting the goalposts now about evidence, of course theres no evidence specifically about blue mage, we only just got it announced.
Whoa there as Billy said no one is saying anything about ripping out the carnival, at least im not, im saying i want it in df and raids as well, at a proper level. Im not defending people wanting content being stripped out. And as billy pointed out you are doing exactly what you are on a crusade against people with another opinion to you.
As for "that data is not for you", true its for marketing. Im not trying to say Yoshi and co arn't satisfied, im saying im not satisfied and neither should any player, because we don't know its origin. It'd be like me saying in an essay 70% of killer whales prefer the taste of human, then when asked about it I say, well im satisfied with where i got the data so there. And before you be a pedant and say its not an essay so it doesnt apply, it does, if you throw out statistics you need to back them up. Why do you need to do this? Because 70% of people agree with me from data ive gathered from non descript locations, and im satisfied.
And no I wasnt just praying you'd go away or something, i was curious as to why you were still here when you said you were leaving, apparantly i misinterpretted you.
I'm not trying to white knight anyone. You're making up a group of people im apparantly arguing for and represent