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  1. #171
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    TheHeavenAbyss's Avatar
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    Lluw Tharias
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    I'm convinced and hope it will be a Tank. I don't play Tank often, as I don't usually like being in a position where it seems like I'm leading the party. However, as someone who started playing in Stormblood, it always seemed to me that tanks are in demand for DF, so I don't mind that there are incentives for players to tank more often. Incentives like cool looking jobs like Dark Knight and Gunblader. I think if you're going to create a new Tank job, you better make it really stand out, otherwise I don't see it change the landscape that much. People that main tanks will try a new tank class regardless, but players that usually play DPS like me will look at a new cool tank class and think "I don't usually go for tank, but man, gunblades are too cool not to try them".

    The same argument for Dancer as a Healer (And you know what would be nice too? A "perform" action for Dancer, where you could create your own dances, maybe by mixing dance emotes you collected).

    I wouldn't mind getting a third job, as a DPS (before the BLU announcement as a Limited Job, I was convinced it was going to be the new DPS job together with Tank Gunblade and Healer Dancer. And well, it is a DPS anyway, I guess...), as using "multiple" to refer to just two jobs seems weird, although is not incorrect.
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    Last edited by TheHeavenAbyss; 12-28-2018 at 08:13 PM.

  2. #172
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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    Maybe this expansion we get a Gunblade dps and next expansion you can have a Gunhammer tank
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  3. #173
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Maybe this expansion we get a Gunblade dps and next expansion you can have a Gunhammer tank
    No. Contrary to what you may see small talks about here, hammers do not get people excited, they're not iconic, and giving us another boring looking heavy weapon will do remarkably little to energize the tank playerbase. But by all means, continue attempting to relegate tanks into having dumb looking unga bunga weapons because only the DPS players get to have stuff that looks cool.

    As you may have seen on previous threads, it's not just as simple as 'throwing tanks a bone'. Tank players want a cool looking job that gets people excited to play. Hammers do not do that.

    Inb4 "but if it's blunt damage, Monk will be fixed!". This community seems to have an obsession with the idea that making a tank that does blunt damage is going to somehow magically elevate Monk to Dragoon's "Bards literally refuse to raid without me" Piercing Debuff, or Ninja's "Every trained monkey sets their watch to me" Trick Attack. I swear, listening to some people you'd think Blunt Tank's release would go something like:

    "Can you see this? He's already raided with a hundred monks! That's crazy! It hasn't even been a patch! That's crazy!"
    "AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!"
    "HE'S LAUGHING!"
    "Fear not, Monks! Balance has arrived! Everything is okay now, because I'm here."
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    #notallraiders

  4. #174
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    Burningskull's Avatar
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    Markov Dracul
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    No. Contrary to what you may see small talks about here, hammers do not get people excited, they're not iconic, and giving us another boring looking heavy weapon will do remarkably little to energize the tank playerbase. But by all means, continue attempting to relegate tanks into having dumb looking unga bunga weapons because only the DPS players get to have stuff that looks cool.

    As you may have seen on previous threads, it's not just as simple as 'throwing tanks a bone'. Tank players want a cool looking job that gets people excited to play. Hammers do not do that.

    Inb4 "but if it's blunt damage, Monk will be fixed!". This community seems to have an obsession with the idea that making a tank that does blunt damage is going to somehow magically elevate Monk to Dragoon's "Bards literally refuse to raid without me" Piercing Debuff, or Ninja's "Every trained monkey sets their watch to me" Trick Attack. I swear, listening to some people you'd think Blunt Tank's release would go something like:

    "Can you see this? He's already raided with a hundred monks! That's crazy! It hasn't even been a patch! That's crazy!"
    "AAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!"
    "HE'S LAUGHING!"
    "Fear not, Monks! Balance has arrived! Everything is okay now, because I'm here."
    The smiley face was supposed to insinuate a joke lol. On the topic of blunt resistance according to an interview it "sounds" like they might be getting rid of all the defense down buffs. Nothing concrete just a theory.
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  5. #175
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    SargentToughie's Avatar
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    The smiley face was supposed to insinuate a joke lol. On the topic of blunt resistance according to an interview it "sounds" like they might be getting rid of all the defense down buffs. Nothing concrete just a theory.
    Truth be told? I'd been sitting on that image for over a day now and was just looking for an excuse to use it.

    Re: Resistance Down Debuffs - That's fantastic news! I thought that Slashing/Piercing/Blunt needed to die back about halfway through Heavensward, it's great to hear that suggestion become more popular/potentially recognized.
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    #notallraiders

  6. #176
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    Kurumii Tokisakii
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    but then you have to ask if the Tanks and Healers can handle waiting 10+ minutes because no new DPS is released to level with the new Tank and Healers for the 2 DPS slots.

    Can they even handle waiting past 5 minutes without complaining the game is broken?

    Can they last that long without quiting Roulette Queue and make their own parties?!

    CAN THEY EVEN HANDLE A QUEUE TIME LONGER THAN 10 SECONDS IF 6.0 NEW JOBS ARE ALSO ONLY TANK AND HEALER JOB?!
    Yeah you are right, thats absolutly not acceptable. Better make moar deeps classes, they can wait 1 hour no problem!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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  7. #177
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    I honestly will prefer a Modern Assassin type of Job for as the next DPS Job anyways.

    Something like Agent from DFO since Garlean Empire is the current civilization that has high tech version of modern day technology.



    Not to mention the Garlean Empire still has a Nobility system with Corporations as well so it will not be far from the truth if they had a organization of high skilled Assassins trained to be bodyguards or assassinations as their business within Garlean Society to protect high classified information, person of interests, and industrial sabotage.

    Also, with Garleans lack of magic it is suited that some learned to specialize in using both Guns and Swords since they lack the talent for magic along with their use of Magitek was not until the discovery of Ceruleum 50 years before the game storyline. Guns have already become a party of Eorzea during that time and was easy weapons for those that did lack magical talent.

    (PS yes Garlean Empire is only around 50 years old)
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 12-29-2018 at 01:56 AM.

  8. #178
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    Lluw Tharias
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I honestly will prefer a Modern Assassin type of Job for as the next DPS Job anyways.

    Something like Agent from DFO since Garlean Empire is the current civilization that has high tech version of modern day technology.



    Not to mention the Garlean Empire still has a Nobility system with Corporations as well so it will not be far from the truth if they had a organization of high skilled Assassins trained to be bodyguards or assassinations as their business within Garlean Society to protect high classified information, person of interests, and industrial sabotage.

    Also, with Garleans lack of magic it is suited that some learned to specialize in using both Guns and Swords since they lack the talent for magic along with their use of Magitek was not until the discovery of Ceruleum 50 years before the game storyline. Guns have already become a party of Eorzea during that time and was easy weapons for those that did lack magical talent.

    (PS yes Garlean Empire is only around 50 years old)
    If the Gunblade class ends up being called Soldier, like some have been saying, that class could be Turk, like in FFVII. That would be cool.
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  9. #179
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    Maybe this expansion we get a Gunblade dps and next expansion you can have a Gunhammer tank
    how about a Gun-Gun.

    lol jk
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  10. #180
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    Rin Black
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargentToughie View Post
    No. Contrary to what you may see small talks about here, hammers do not get people excited, they're not iconic, and giving us another boring looking heavy weapon will do remarkably little to energize the tank playerbase.
    I mean, a Viking Job that uses a hammer and acts like Thor with a bunch of Lightning based attack would probably get a LOT of people excited.
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