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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    Haha, holy crap, 70%. No way.
    Get this: most people don't marry themselves to a job concept before it even comes out. Every person who already has a 70 they are happy doing endgame content with isn't going to be put out about Blu being limited unless they already had a vested interest in being a blue mage. Which most people don't, just like the majority of people don't have any interest in any other singular job either.
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    I think it's probably more... 20% hate the idea of limited jobs, 20% are for it, and the rest don't really care....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Burningskull View Post
    I think it's probably more... 20% hate the idea of limited jobs, 20% are for it, and the rest don't really care....
    Or there are really more People liking the idea behind the limited jobs as People who hating it... you won't believe it, but this is possible... no joke, this is really possible.
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    Famitsu writer: Does that mean "limited jobs" came after blue mage?

    Yoshida: Near the end of development, we thought "what should we call these?" and the lore team gave us a simple and easy to understand name, which was the "limited job" and we went with that one.
    I find it interesting that Yoshida didn't directly answer this question. I've had my suspicion about which actually came first. Is it the whole truth that Blue Mage has been released as a Limited Job because they couldn't figure out how to get Blue Mage to work? Or are Limited Jobs their solution to pushing more jobs out the door in a manner that requires less work and Blue Mage just happened to be the first job to receive such treatment?

    "Fun to play" and "Play to have fun" are concepts that makes this job seem like a console game, but it's brushed up to make you feel "I'm using a proper new FFXIV job".
    So Blue Mage has been heavily advertised as a proper new FFXIV job, when in reality, it isn't. Got it.

    I just sigh and shake my head as I read through this interview. I just hope that, in the future, we can convince Yoshida that his goals can be achieved without forcing a job to be omitted from content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    I find it interesting that Yoshida didn't directly answer this question. I've had my suspicion about which actually came first. Is it the whole truth that Blue Mage has been released as a Limited Job because they couldn't figure out how to get Blue Mage to work? Or are Limited Jobs their solution to pushing more jobs out the door in a manner that requires less work and Blue Mage just happened to be the first job to receive such treatment?


    So Blue Mage has been heavily advertised as a proper new FFXIV job, when in reality, it isn't. Got it.

    I just sigh and shake my head as I read through this interview. I just hope that, in the future, we can convince Yoshida that his goals can be achieved without forcing a job to be omitted from content.
    He's not going to change his mind. If anything this interview is proof of it, he's twice as adamant about this as he was about MCH needing buffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    He's not going to change his mind. If anything this interview is proof of it, he's twice as adamant about this as he was about MCH needing buffs.
    This is unfortunately true. Oh well, I'm still fairly excited for Blue Mage on the whole. Even if I'm disappointed by the limited job moniker and restrictions. I will simply hope that, given a year or two in development, the team might figure out a way to implement it into the proper game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    people don't marry themselves to a job concept before it even comes out.
    I'll make sure to save this quote for when (if) Limited Beasmaster, Puppeteer, or Dancer comes out and we can do this all over again. The "concept" of Blue Mage did not begin in FFXIV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elerus View Post
    I'll make sure to save this quote for when (if) Limited Beasmaster, Puppeteer, or Dancer comes out and we can do this all over again. The "concept" of Blue Mage did not begin in FFXIV.
    It's coming from a place of being hurt by Blue Mage, which is real dark, I know...but some part of me really wishes they go the Mog route with Dancer and forcing them to have a small chance of learning a specific dance under every weather condition in the game in their limited DPS job gameplay, including like Ultima and Odin weather and such.

    After all, it wouldn't be Dancer without that, right?

    There haven't been any other main character Dancers in the series (besides Penelo if you count spinoffs), so to be fair to Dancer it kinda has to be this way or the fans would be upset and it shouldn't be allowed in FFXIV.

    That's mean sarcasm and I wouldn't really want to wish that on anybody. But, the same logic really does apply and when people throw around things like "being married to a job concept" or all the weird justifications from the dev team about what jobs and fun are 'supposed' to be like, it's not so nice when it's something you're looking forward to, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    It's coming from a place of being hurt by Blue Mage, which is real dark, I know...but some part of me really wishes they go the Mog route with Dancer and forcing them to have a small chance of learning a specific dance under every weather condition in the game in their limited DPS job gameplay, including like Ultima and Odin weather and such.

    After all, it wouldn't be Dancer without that, right?

    There haven't been any other main character Dancers in the series (besides Penelo if you count spinoffs), so to be fair to Dancer it kinda has to be this way or the fans would be upset and it shouldn't be allowed in FFXIV.

    That's mean sarcasm and I wouldn't really want to wish that on anybody. But, the same logic really does apply and when people throw around things like "being married to a job concept" or all the weird justifications from the dev team about what jobs and fun are 'supposed' to be like, it's not so nice when it's something you're looking forward to, is it?
    Dancer has a stronger conceptual identity than blu does.

    Real talk, if Dancer is the next class and it's a melee healer, I might main swap. I want it to be a melee healer quite a bit. It's a role that goes pretty underutilized in MMO's and the last time I got to play one (rune priest) it was busted as hell and a lot of fun.

    If they pull the ol' switcheroo and dnc is a limited job, I wouldn't really care. I already like playing sam, rdm, drg, war and drk well enough that surely at least one of them would be fine to play in the expansion (can't metaphorically ten-chi-jin all of them) and I would level my dnc and then get on with my life. I would definitely, 100% rather have a limited dancer job over it being another healer in exactly the same mold as the other 3 we already got.

    @Videra thank you for noticing! In no particular order: Eureka, Gold Saucer mini games that take forever to grind out, lalafels, light grinding 500 garuda hm's. 13 minute raid encounters, and idiot rp'ers who take one of the precious few opportunities we get to directly converse with the producer of this game to ask if Alphinaud is actually half-elezen half-lalafel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valdegarde View Post
    It's coming from a place of being hurt by Blue Mage, which is real dark, I know...but some part of me really wishes they go the Mog route with Dancer and forcing them to have a small chance of learning a specific dance under every weather condition in the game in their limited DPS job gameplay, including like Ultima and Odin weather and such.

    After all, it wouldn't be Dancer without that, right?
    Dancer should also be restricted to female only according to Final Fantasy Tactics.
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