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[Fyce]

Game watch: I was there when you announced BLU at NA fanfest, but after everyone was hyped, i started to hear confusion in their voices.
Yoshida: I always had a safety net when i talked about BLU and everytime someone asked about BLU, i said "Well, we can't implement it in the normal fashion. BLU is about learning", but of course, everyone doesn't read interviews.

"I've said it for fours years now, but you don't listen."
Perfect.

Yoshida: I got the community teams around the world to investigate players' reactions to BLU and over 70% of them were positive. Louder voices tend to stand out, but when you check all sorts of social media, the investigations have shown that most people are looking foward to it.

This one is for the "massive outcry" and "a majority dislike it" crowd.

Yoshida:[...] after Stormblood was released, the number of players didn't stagger/drop, and instead increased. This was when we started thinking "We shouldn't stay in our cage and be bound by the word MMORPG. Instead, we should treat it like an Online game that has all sorts of content". By positively and flexibly creating content to make it more "fun", all types of people with different interests can enjoy it. Rather than never implementing it because of stubborn reasons, we decided to base our challenge around "how fun the game play" is.

If you ever thought "this is an MMORPG! Solo content is bad!" or "all jobs should be fitting the mold!", this one was for you.

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I strongly advise anyone to read the Q&A interview. It's filled with stuff like that.

[Shougun]

Game watch: I was there when you announced BLU at NA fanfest, but after everyone was hyped, i started to hear confusion in their voices.
Yoshida: I always had a safety net when i talked about BLU and everytime someone asked about BLU, i said "Well, we can't implement it in the normal fashion. BLU is about learning", but of course, everyone doesn't read interviews.

"I've said it for fours years now, but you don't listen."
Perfect.

Yoshida: I got the community teams around the world to investigate players' reactions to BLU and over 70% of them were positive. Louder voices tend to stand out, but when you check all sorts of social media, the investigations have shown that most people are looking foward to it.

This one is for the "massive outcry" and "a majority dislike it" crowd.

Yoshida:[...] after Stormblood was released, the number of players didn't stagger/drop, and instead increased. This was when we started thinking "We shouldn't stay in our cage and be bound by the word MMORPG. Instead, we should treat it like an Online game that has all sorts of content". By positively and flexibly creating content to make it more "fun", all types of people with different interests can enjoy it. Rather than never implementing it because of stubborn reasons, we decided to base our challenge around "how fun the game play" is.

If you ever thought "this is an MMORPG! Solo content is bad!" or "all jobs should be fitting the mold!", this one was for you.

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I strongly advise anyone to read the Q&A interview. It's filled with stuff like that.

1.
I hope he doesn't see that as a get out of jail card, because it's not a good one. I mean if we're playing "I've been saying this for years" then the first time he introduced a job as solo content (many years ago he mentioned blue is hard and may be this way) I immediately responded to those threads with "yeah, how about no" (more words, less blunt but basically that). I also from that point said that I didn't want them to destroy their solo content ideas but I'm not interested in seeing Blue Mage have that restriction. That they can make the content, just don't make it the only part of Blue or allow others into it and still allow Blue into content as a regular job.

If it's a safety net it's a net made out of wet paper. Imo, lol.

2.
I wonder for his investigation if it's the like / dislike ratio on the youtube video reveal of Blue Mage. . . Because the response on the forums is clearly not 70% in favor. Although you'd expect to always see a negative bias on the forums since you come to ask for stuff, if you want to praise then it's just more like silently handing your money off lol.

3.
I don't mind them trying new things but it's disappointing to see them do it to job aspects one may hope to play. Imagine if he did that to Samurai or if he allowed you to role play Viera but only in one zone. On these more popular concepts the forums would be on fire. People who didn't want to play (/main) Blue Mage of course are fine, and Blue Mage isn't as popular as some of the other jobs, but it's still disappointing.\

Edit: I guess we can be edit buddies lol:

Edit: for Shougun just below... As it's pretty much on the same topic and format.

I think it's fair for him to remind people that they do communicate on this kind of stuff. And that's not the first time he basically said "guys, I told you, but you kept asking for it so...". So, as I said, if someone cares enough, they should make the effort to inform themselves and raise their voice before it's too late. I mean, wouldn't you be a bit angry if you warn people about something for years, and then they act surprised when that thing finally happens and they are like "omg I didn't know!"? Putting aside people who dismiss what he said for... reasons (?).

Regarding the 70% thing, they didn't disclose what kind of audit they did. And I highly doubt that Yoshida himself knows the details. That'd be a question to ask to the community team, as they were the ones tasked with doing that. And if you actually do think that people's voice and feedback were being badly or wrongly reported, feel free to ask them. Probably in a dedicated thread or when they do their Q&A stuff.

As for the disappointment thing, well, it's indeed pretty subjective. And if it wasn't BLU, it would be something else, or impact other people. Anyway, it's now clear that they really didn't intent to implement BLU in FFXIV because of its quirks. No matter if people see that decision as valid or not. It's also hard not to say that BLU wasn't a good candidate for that kind of treatment. And if Limited Jobs are a way to see jobs that otherwise would never come to FFXIV, well, better accepting it and try to get the most out of that instead of staying bitter.

1. I get part of what you're saying but hopefully you get what I meant as well. Since I used the silly food analogy before let me get that one back out lol. If I ask for you to make me a sandwich, you being the chef (Yoshi), and the sandwich being Blue. You respond "yeah sure, but it'll have anchovies and pineapple in it". I respond back with "I still want a sandwich but I don't want that one!!!".

Of course you're free to ignore my request and I'm free to say it sucks lol. In this case I haven't tried the solo part and haven't decided if I'll like it or not yet (am waiting), but I /know/ I wanted the duty finder part and so it's a requested but missing ingredient. So what I was saying about his safety net is for those who have listened / heard what he has said so far that he feels he's already covered his bases by telling everyone it's going to have pineapple and I was saying "if that counts as a safety net" then I've already said "your sandwich ingredients are bad" (or in other words "no that's not what I ordered, go back"). And just again I know he doesn't have to design to exactly what I want, or anyone here, but in a place designed for feedback (feedback for the kitchen) - I'm doing just that.

So yea - I know he's pre warned us, but I find his reason for it having to be the solo / side content is not satisfactory. In that I strongly believe it could learn spells and still function 100% balanced in duty finder - with the restrictions I'm sure you've seen me say before. Of course i'm sure you also seen me say that I believe balancing a customized toolkit of over 50+ (100+ they designed so far) is EXTREMELY daunting and just exceptionally unlikely, and probably never balance-able (but I've never asked for that).

2. Absolutely, he's at the top of a shifting mountain and knowing even half of all the exact details of what's down underneath is pretty good. I still doubt that it's that high, assuming every single person polled knew what Blue Mage restrictions were (never to be in current content). I wouldn't be too shocked if it was still 40%+ like the idea, but I'd also suggest that unfortunately Blue Mage is not as popular so it's easy for people to let that job slide into something "other". People for example would be far more likely to flip tables for the jobs more people like (say Samurai or Dragoon). Dark Knight is going to be limited job only! Reason being they think blood magic can't be balanced. Forums on fire lol.

3. Yeah for sure, like Eureka or what have you where some love that old style and others just want to 1.0 Dalamud that section. I mean would you be sad if they at some time later made it have all those limited features and function (fairly, and balanced) in duty finder content? I'm not against weird things but I'm not a fan of limited, as you've probably read I'm for "advanced job" (some call it unlimited but it's not my favorite name).