Gunblade job must be a DPS.

[Ilan]

In every FF game gunblade jobs looks pretty different from each other, look at squall and lightning both use gunblades but they combat style is complete different, squall use more heavy swings and heavy fireshots and lightning is more matrix style and fire his weapon like she is using a handgun compared to squall, they only share the gunblade, in this game they are represent more squall archetype and wear heavy armour all around.

And no, is not about quetimes, is about expanding the tank and healing choices like DD since tanks and healers mains are human beings that deserve have they fun expanded too.

As you wrote yourself, they have never really been weapons for tanks before.
For me its ONLY about quetimes except a new tank and/or healer would be enjoyable to play. Lets just imagine every new class would be a dps, the quetimes for everyone that doesn't play tank or healer would explode because everyone would suddenly play these two new dps classes. So alone because of this we should get at least a tank or a healer, best would be both. No need to start with this "tanks and healer mains are human beeings" because thats quite obvious and has nothing to do with what i wrote.

[EdwinLi]

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but then you have to ask if the Tanks and Healers can handle waiting 10+ minutes because no new DPS is released to level with the new Tank and Healers for the 2 DPS slots.

Can they even handle waiting past 5 minutes without complaining the game is broken?

Can they last that long without quiting Roulette Queue and make their own parties?!

CAN THEY EVEN HANDLE A QUEUE TIME LONGER THAN 10 SECONDS IF 6.0 NEW JOBS ARE ALSO ONLY TANK AND HEALER JOB?!

[Xtrasweettea]

but then you have to ask if the Tanks and Healers can handle waiting 10+ minutes because no new DPS is released to level with the new Tank and Healers for the 2 DPS slots.

Can they even handle waiting past 5 minutes without complaining the game is broken?

Can they last that long without quiting Roulette Queue and make their own parties?!

CAN THEY EVEN HANDLE A QUEUE TIME LONGER THAN 10 SECONDS IF 6.0 NEW JOBS ARE ALSO ONLY TANK AND HEALER JOB?!

No. I can't. If I am on tank and my queue time is longer than instant, I drop queue and swap to DPS.

[InkstainedGwyn]

but then you have to ask if the Tanks and Healers can handle waiting 10+ minutes because no new DPS is released to level with the new Tank and Healers for the 2 DPS slots.

Can they even handle waiting past 5 minutes without complaining the game is broken?

Can they last that long without quiting Roulette Queue and make their own parties?!

CAN THEY EVEN HANDLE A QUEUE TIME LONGER THAN 10 SECONDS IF 6.0 NEW JOBS ARE ALSO ONLY TANK AND HEALER JOB?!

Given how many people in my FC refuse to even unlock tank and healer jobs because "they're boring and dumb" I'm pretty sure the queue times will be fine, just full of salty DPS who are upset that they weren't catered to this expac.

[kikix12]

but then you have to ask if the Tanks and Healers can handle waiting 10+ minutes because no new DPS is released to level with the new Tank and Healers for the 2 DPS slots.

Eh...I hope that you understand the fact that for tanks/healers to have any sizable queue time, the DPS need to be instant, right?! Do you seriously think that DPS will be so outnumbered that their queue will go for 10-30 minutes to 0?! Seriously?!

If anything, if the gunblade will be a tank and it will cause a significant change in queue, then it will reduce the DPS queue time while having zero effect on tank and healer queue. Alternative either healer or tank will have to wait for a minute max, not because of DPS but because the other new class just wouldn't be good enough to compare with Gunblade in its own category.

So yeah...

PS: Tanks and healers still have queues...sometimes. In certain roulettes or for specific dungeons.

[EdwinLi]

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Are you talking about Max level content or Leveling content because I am talking about Leveling content.

I know the change will be very minimum at max level content once people finishing leveling the new Tank and Healer Jobs because most players who jump on the new Tank and Healer Job will drop it and return to DPS role once they reach max level.

I am talking about leveling content because that is where the focus for the new Tank and Healer Job queue time will be as we should have learned back in 3.0 release of Dark Knight and Astrologian's release with Machinist. Don' t forget there were Tank players who were not use to not getting instant queue started complaining about queue times longer than 5 minutes as they were leveling Dark Knight.

Plus a slightly making fun of how certain Tank players just can't stand long queue times since most content they get instant or almost instant queue times.

[kikix12]

Are you talking about Max level content or Leveling content because I am talking about Leveling content.

I'm talking about all content. There is such a disproportion of tanks and healers versus DPS that the changes to tank and healer queues will NOT be high. Many people that will play the new tank/healer job already play tank or healer job. And with the new Trust system, and main story experience I reckon that most queues will be made by leveling roulette anyway, which is overfilled with DPS by such a degree that there's a lot of DPS that can be counter-balanced before tanks/healers queue would suffer significantly.

Plus a slightly making fun of how certain Tank players just can't stand long queue times since most content they get instant or almost instant queue times.

Yes, I know. But alas...I do not imagine the queues suffering as much as you would think to even make it likely.

If they will?!...Really...I wouldn't particularly mind, keh. I'd have an easier time leveling a DPS, keh. I can always level tanks and healers once people flood the DPS again...I'm saying that as someone that mains healing and wants a Dancer which is...rather...likely to be the healer.

Just a quick question. Would everyone be ok with the Gunblade job being a DPS if we got a Tank and Healer as well?

I'd be fine with it only if it was another highly anticipated class. It's not just about a tank. It's about a class that players WANT to play, that players are strongly attracted to.

[Ilan]

but then you have to ask if the Tanks and Healers can handle waiting 10+ minutes because no new DPS is released to level with the new Tank and Healers for the 2 DPS slots.

Can they even handle waiting past 5 minutes without complaining the game is broken?

Can they last that long without quiting Roulette Queue and make their own parties?!

CAN THEY EVEN HANDLE A QUEUE TIME LONGER THAN 10 SECONDS IF 6.0 NEW JOBS ARE ALSO ONLY TANK AND HEALER JOB?!

Yeah you are right, thats absolutly not acceptable. Better make moar deeps classes, they can wait 1 hour no problem!

[shao32]

As you wrote yourself, they have never really been weapons for tanks before.
For me its ONLY about quetimes except a new tank and/or healer would be enjoyable to play. Lets just imagine every new class would be a dps, the quetimes for everyone that doesn't play tank or healer would explode because everyone would suddenly play these two new dps classes. So alone because of this we should get at least a tank or a healer, best would be both. No need to start with this "tanks and healer mains are human beeings" because thats quite obvious and has nothing to do with what i wrote.

There is no role system on other FF games, on xiii snow and fang have the protector path more advanced at the beginning but in the end everyone can follow that path when you unlock it, lightning spend the entire game trowing cures, esunas and protecs, that's mean gunblade is a healer job by default?, Since lightning spend much time casting ruin its make gunblade a caster meany?, FFxiii is not a good example in any way since the main characters and they arms are pure aesthetic more that jobs per see, and squall is not a tank nor a DPS since ffviii don't have roles.

So by you opinion we should get only tanks and healers when we have queue times problems? That's selfish you know, DD don't deserve have more priority or more jobs over tanks and healers, we are practically the 50% of the comunity and tanks and healers deserve get new jobs at a proportional rate the DD gets ones to not only for queues but for fun, for aesthetic, for have diversity, bcs we enjoying much more being tanks and healer than DD,every reason to add a new job as a DD is the same reason to add new jobs as tanks or healers and gunblade is a perfect tank since have the aesthetic and the appealing for it in this game.