It's gone too far about the mog station SE

[Taebok]

I would rather they do it as they are. This grants additional funding so that we get new seasonal events every year with new items as a reward instead of rehashing the same rewards and events. Sure they could add them to a vendor and be done with it. But at what cost? Would we then see WoW-esque holiday events wherein they remain static year after year after year after year after year with minimal changes (if any changes at all) to the rewards given or the event.

Nah, I'll pass on that.

SE earned 199 billion yen (1.787 billion US) last year. A 25% increase over the previous year.
They had a 21.3% increase in operating income, up to 33 billion yen (300 mil US).
And you think they need mog station income to fund new holiday events?
Jeeeeeez ...

[Kyuuen]

SE earned 199 billion yen (1.787 billion US) last year. A 25% increase over the previous year.
They had a 21.3% increase in operating income, up to 33 billion yen (300 mil US).
And you think they need mog station income to fund new holiday events?
Jeeeeeez ...

Neat. And what were their total expenses including salaries, R&D, bills, taxes, and any and all other expenses?

[Noodle_Trinidad]

Neat. And what were their total expenses including salaries, R&D, bills, taxes, and any and all other expenses?

Maybe you should look up the definition of Operating Income my friend
Operating income takes a company's gross income, which is equivalent to total revenue minus COGS, and subtracts all operating expenses. A business's operating expenses are costs incurred from normal operating activities and include items such as office supplies and utilities.

Still I will never understand this mentality players have taken up. Why are we defending the company as if we were Shareholders?

[Kyuuen]

Maybe you should look up the definition of Operating Income my friend
Operating income takes a company's gross income, which is equivalent to total revenue minus COGS, and subtracts all operating expenses. A business's operating expenses are costs incurred from normal operating activities and include items such as office supplies and utilities.

Still I will never understand this mentality players have taken up. Why are we defending the company as if we were Shareholders?

My bad then. Not a business professional nor a tax professional. =P

Then if that's after all considerations I've got nothing more to say in that regard. A business is a business. /shrug

[Noodle_Trinidad]

My bad then. Not a business professional nor a tax professional. =P

Then if that's after all considerations I've got nothing more to say in that regard. A business is a business. /shrug

Yes a business is a business and I do not fault them for thinking as such, what I do find an issue is most customers have started to think like a business/shareholders and less as customers. Businesses will always be trying to inch their way towards the maximum amount of profit for the least amount of work. That's fine and all but its generally kept in check by customers who in reverse try and get the most amount of effort for the lowest price possible. These 2 forces should be bringing a happy medium and not something in favor of one or the other and when we consider FFXIV's history post 2.0 what once started as a happy medium has now started with a tilt into SE's side. They're going to keep inching as much as they can to maximize their profit as things like these animations cost them little to nothing to make when you consider the grand scheme of things, I mean why do you think they focus heavily on Gachas? It makes a lot of money for the least amount of effort, hell they make more money than XIV ever will.

[Adrestia]

Neat. And what were their total expenses including salaries, R&D, bills, taxes, and any and all other expenses?

I mean . . . 199 billion yen minus 33 billion yen, minus taxes and other non-operating expenses. He gave you the answer. Operating income is what they made after paying all their operating costs. Now, they’re also going to have taxes to pay, interest on debt repayments, etc. that aren’t included in that. But wages, benefits, R&D, bill repayment (principal amount), etc.? That’s 166 billion yen and what’s left over is the 33bn. Take away the non-operating costs and you get what they really added to their coffers when it’s all said and done.


Whoops, beaten like a Namazu training dummy (coming soon to a Mog Station near you)

[Kurando]

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SE also took a major hit (around 3.7b yen) this year with the cancelled FFXV DLC, that information still seems to be ignored. The subscriptions of XIV can be redirected absolutely anywhere within SE, the MogStation revenue is the only thing guaranteed to go back in to the game.

[Anselmet]

I'm fine with the concept of the mogstation. I'm fine with them releasing stuff on Christmas. I'm fine with paying 7 dollars for an emore IF they are something intricate say like the gold dance (not on the mogstation, I know) or something that has a lot of animation to it. These two dance are not that. They are very simple and should have been around 3 dollars, imo. I wish SE would do better pricing and take into consideration on what we are buying. A new outfit that has a lot of detail and consists of a full outfit? 15 dollars. Okay sure. Do that with something say the HW outfits that you had programed into the base game and literally just had to make it available on all races, had better be cheaper.

Also... not sure how I feel about these dances they are tad... fortnight-ish.