I hope we get more Anima in 5.0

[Caitlinzulu]

Same here, i did the first step and then taking one step in pagos i said nope not doing this and never looked back
I am still sad i am not gettting even one relic done having finished 4 in heavensward and doing some steps of a few others

[Transient_Shadow]

Same here, i did the first step and then taking one step in pagos i said nope not doing this and never looked back
I am still sad i am not gettting even one relic done having finished 4 in heavensward and doing some steps of a few others

Yeah. Pagos was a living hell. I just powered through it and once I got the story and relic done I got out of dodge. I refuse to go back there ever again. And the way Pyros weapons are set up is another slap in the face with how sub stats work. Everything is random the number of sub stats, the type of sub stat, and the sub stat's potency. All of it.... Random.

I'm only doing Eureka now for the story about Baldesion which caught my interest ever since I first heard about it from my wif- er krile. I'm honestly enjoying the story but I tolerate the mechanics of Eureka.

[Alucard135]

Everything is random the number of sub stats, the type of sub stat, and the sub stat's potency. All of it.... Random.

To be fair, the number of sub stats is not always random. Once you get a row of substats added, it's always gonna be there. Just the first couple of tries is random till you get 5 substats. Then it will always be 5 for that particular weapon.

As for Eureka vs anima grind, both have pros and cons. The cons of the Anima grind is that you will have to do the same steps for every weapon from scratch (of course the nerfs help in that) but the pros is that you get to do it on your own time and pace. As for Eureka, you don't have to relevel again to get another relic. That big grindy step is done once you do it once. Pagos was the biggest problem for everyone due to many issues (even the dev team agreed it was bad, since they weren't able to incorporate any feedback into it). In Anemos, It took me 3 days to get my RDM weapon at release day. But on Pagos around 3 weeks and it was torture. As for Pyros it only took 5 days. Furthermore, the more people in the zone that are higher in level, the quicker it is for lots of NMs to spawn and gain EXP. On release days you'd have to settle with NMs that the people in the zone can spawn and fight.

So if you exclude Pagos, it really is less grindy than Anima. I had to suffer Pagos again just to farm light for my DRK weapon (solo farming was the easiest lol). But as soon as I was done from that, I already had enough crystals to get the Pyros weapon as soon as I entered Pyrso. So the only thing I can say is good about Eureka (excluding Pagos), is that once you get one weapon, it's fairly easy to get the rest. You don't have to suffer all steps again even without nerfs.