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    Avellin Adorel
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    Honestly, as long as people can still make a profit from crafting, the supply costs are reasonable. If people don't like the costs, then they'll just gather mats themselves until the prices tank because nobody wants to buy anything.

    I was able to move aethersands at a decent clip for 5K each when SB first dropped, but the bots swiftly crashed it all the way down to 1.5K within a few weeks of them becoming active.
    This kind of thinking is what kills gathering. I've never been a big fan of crafting in most games. I've always enjoyed gathering more and used it as my income. How would you feel if there were crafting bots non-stop spitting out gear and making the market on that tank?
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    Alijana Tumet
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    This whole situation is extra concerning now that we know World Travel is going to be a thing. There'll be literally no reason for people not just seek out the cheapest items with the aid of marketboard databases, which is going to shift even more sales to the bot farmers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krojack View Post
    This kind of thinking is what kills gathering. I've never been a big fan of crafting in most games. I've always enjoyed gathering more and used it as my income. How would you feel if there were crafting bots non-stop spitting out gear and making the market on that tank?
    Uh...what are you getting at exactly?

    I was making a counterstatement to the people claiming that the economy would get messed up if the gathering bots were eliminated when the exact opposite would happen, since if legit players sell stuff at prices that are too high, people simply won't buy them, so prices will eventually normalize until both gatherers and crafters can be satisfied. Right now, the trend I'm seeing is that the prices on gathered items are so low that it's not worth the effort. The only fluctuations that occur are a result of the bot farmers noticing that they've scared off their competition which leads to them occasionally jacking up the prices until people catch on, after which they'll tank everything down to uncomfortable lows again.

    And there already are crafting bots tanking prices on pretty much every server. Either yours is lucky or you just haven't noticed them yet.


    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    FFXIV is a product/service created and maintained for what purpose? To make money for SE. Going after bots would cost money and it would result in players getting banned, which would result in fewer subs and less money generated. What would the benefits be to SE if they did it? None. Almost no one is going to unsub because of bots at their current numbers and it won't attract more subs. SE doesn't care because there is no incentive to.
    You could apply this logic to every MMO in the market, yet some like WoW still make an active effort to actually control their issues with cheaters because they know it can potentially turn people away or discourage them from even starting.

    XIV is easily the most negligent P2P MMO I've encountered when it comes to this matter, but who knows whether it's due to incompetence or an actual lack of concern because we already know they have serious communication issues between their staff from how long it took them to address the Ungarmax glitch.
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    Vyncent Nolan
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    XIV is easily the most negligent P2P MMO I've encountered when it comes to this matter, but who knows whether it's due to incompetence or an actual lack of concern
    72-hour ban for botting makes it easy to see which.
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