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  1. #41
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izanagi_Fiaresu View Post
    Part of me is hoping that it will be maiming DPS
    There is the possibility, however small it may be, that could get a Magitek Knight like I've seen people talking about as a tank, and gunblades as a dps class. Doubtful, since I think most signs point to gunblades being tanks, but the possibility could still be there. Regardless of how it plays out I can't picture them not releasing another dps class alongside a tank and healer.
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    Anyone asking for more DPS jobs before we get a new tank/healer gets some "hate" from me. Especially when it comes to the gunblade job.
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  3. #43
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    I don't know if this has been said before buuuuut...

    Mild spoilers inc
    Every time a gunblader has been in FF8, they have been portrayed as a sorceress's knight at some point, protecting a sorceress.
    Laguna in that movie that was being filmed (iirc he was playing a knight with a gunblade) protecting the sorceress from a dragon, Seifer protecting Edea, and then finally Squall saying to Rinoa that he'll be her knight and protect her.


    This seems like Gunblader has some justification for being a tank, considering tanks protect the party from enemies. Heck, Laguna being in that suit of armour means that gunbladers are okay with heavy suits of armour, which is tank gear.
    Lightning also had a protection role in FF13-2, protecting Valhalla and Etro's throne, And..
    Protecting Serah's soul after she dies.


    Their ranged attack could be bullets, if you consider Lightning's gunblade.
    Speaking of Lightning, I would love to have Lightning's armour in FF13-2 as a tank piece in FFXIV. Her Gunblade looks pretty gorgeous in FF13-2 as well.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 12-23-2018 at 10:25 AM.

  4. #44
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    Sa'niquel Amrita
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    I don't know if this has been said before buuuuut...
    I like this theory of the role. It does make sense.
    It's difficult to determine because the Garleans; of whom we will be inheriting this tech from are very much Hybrid heavy-armored high DPS Bosses. The fact they are mid bosses makes it harder to assign them a role in the Trinity because they are very flexible.

    However, (I've tried to find the source but have yet to) I'm sure that Yoshida said they were not interested in making a new Tank. Something about a Tank being harder to create.
    I suppose we will find out at the next Fanfest.
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  5. #45
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Every time a new job comes out:

    But but it needs to be a dps because I want it to be a DPS!

    Read: They don't want the responsibilities of a tank.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  6. #46
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Niqote View Post
    I like this theory of the role. It does make sense.
    It's difficult to determine because the Garleans; of whom we will be inheriting this tech from are very much Hybrid heavy-armored high DPS Bosses. The fact they are mid bosses makes it harder to assign them a role in the Trinity because they are very flexible.

    However, (I've tried to find the source but have yet to) I'm sure that Yoshida said they were not interested in making a new Tank. Something about a Tank being harder to create.
    I suppose we will find out at the next Fanfest.
    Think he said before that he didn't want to make another tank until the others were balanced. Even so, it has been awhile since a new tank has been introduced. It's probably fair that the tanking crowd gets something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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  7. #47
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    Shouldn't you all be asking the real question?

    How tolerant will the Player playing as a GunBlade Job Tank be when they have to sit for 15 minutes in Queue because there are so little amount of DPS players playing because most of them are jumping on the new Tank and healer job train or rushing through 5.0 Main Scenario.

    Though that will be little problem since we are getting the Trust system in 5.0. (Just got to pick which Wiafu/Husbandno... I mean NPCs to take with you for solo leveling in leveling dungeons.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Alacran View Post
    When Samurai was first teased, I was a strong advocate for it being a Tank on merit of the real world lore of the job and it's romanticized lore connected to Bushido.

    Samurai (or Bushi) were the warriors of pre-modern Japan. They later made up the ruling military class that eventually became the highest ranking social caste of the Edo Period (1603-1867)
    The unwritten Samurai code of conduct, known as Bushido, held that the true warrior must hold that loyalty, courage, veracity, compassion, and honor as important, above all else. An appreciation and respect of life was also imperative, as it added balance to the warrior character.

    What we got was a Ronin. So much for Bushido, so much for Samurai...

    Predictably que times were a mess, and at the start Samurai brought very little to parties due to having great DPS but no utility. With many flocking to it due it being not only a new (highly requested)job and easily one more simple jobs/ roles to play(well).

    I wont pretend that Gunblade has a any long standing lore to denote it's traditional roots as a storied hero who stands on the front lines protecting others, living by a code of honor, strength, and sacrifice. However i will remind all that in order to remotely entice people to Tank, there needs to be some incentive. We were ignored job wise in Stormblood, to do so again isn't only unfair, but incredibly self destructive. People can claim Jobs don't bring people to roles, however as i am a Dark Knight main, i know it's what made a Tank.

    Everytime i hear people whine about wanting more DPS jobs i can't help but think, you really don't want to be as epic as this guy?
    I am more concerned about gameplay honestly. As nice it is for a new Tank to be introduced, the real issue will be gameplay because vaniety alone is not enough for a Tank Job in the long run of things.

    Especially when Gunblade has little identity setup for itself in what kind of Job it is within the FF series compared to other Jobs.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 12-23-2018 at 11:10 AM.

  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredco191 View Post
    The only way I won’t play the Gunblade class is if it ends up being a Healer somehow.
    You shoot people and that'll heal them! 11/10, would main
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lumivyory View Post
    You shoot people and that'll heal them! 11/10, would main
    I mean. There's four classes that do that in SWtOR xD.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn View Post
    I mean. There's four classes that do that in SWtOR xD.
    Four? Wow, had no idea XD
    The first this I thought about while writing this was Ana from Overwatch lol
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