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    There's a difference between being a scholar and being a Scholar. Just the same, there's a difference between being a warrior and being a Warrior.
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    Thancred is a bard in the traditional D&D sense. In the first generation of D&D, bards were simply fighter/rogue hybrids with very high ability scores. They were basically the original "Red Mage" in that they could do a little bit of everything. There wasn't much in the sense of them being magical musicians--that would come later in the next edition or so. In that sense, Thancred is a bard. He's a wandering vagabond/adventurer/ with knack for fighting using light weapons, who travels from town to town, is charismatic, and can charm people (usually women). It gets confusing because in FFXIV we also have "Bards", who are battle-musician archers from Gridania that weave magickal songs to empower their friends and enfeeble their foes. One is an informal title, the other is a specific class of warrior with a set of unique skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnycbad View Post
    There's a difference between being a scholar and being a Scholar. Just the same, there's a difference between being a warrior and being a Warrior.
    Of course... and then there is the Warrior of Light who is a warrior, not a Warrior. Unless they're both.

    That said, the game and lorebook do not capitalise job titles.
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    I think it's a bit more confusing in Japanese, where Warriors are called Senshi, which kinda means soldier/fighter.
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    Just got my lorebook 2, and am going through it now.

    Not entirely sure this is a bug or just different terminologies, but on page 27, under the saint description for Iustis/Justice:

    Injured on the field of battle, Ser Gafryde spent seven days in the care of a woodland hermit.

    ...

    Sir Gafryde grew still then, his story told, a faint smile forever on his pallid features.
    I don't actually know if Gafryde should be consistently referred to as "Ser" or "Sir", or if it's considered interchangeable in Eorzea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YianKutku View Post
    I don't actually know if Gafryde should be consistently referred to as "Ser" or "Sir", or if it's considered interchangeable in Eorzea.
    I can't speak to that one myself, but the the only "sir" I know is the obviously bad and fake Sir Baron von Quiveron IV Esquire, so the first time I saw a "sir" I [CTRL+F]'d all of them and wrote, "Was this intentional?" lol. Either this one slipped through the cracks because there were two in one paragraph, or it's an intentional nod to Eorzean author error.
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    More stuff that I'm not entirely sure are mistakes:

    Page 121, under the description for Nue:

    Needless to say, this could not be further from the truth, for the fourteen-hundred-year-oldNue is simply a red panda, like several other auspices who guard Reisen Temple -- though their powers are quite different.
    I don't know if it's just the kerning, but there might be a missing space.

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    Page 124, under the description for Setoto Seto:

    With the aid of a generous adventurer and the marauder Alka Zolka, she succeeded in finding his soulstone, only to fail in summoning the faerie Lilac, expending all her aether in the process and falling into a state of unconsciousness.
    I was under the impression that soulstones are the core of golems, as described in the sidebar for "Gems and Soulstones" under the Shatotto Shato entry on page 123. Meanwhile, soul crystals are what we equip to get our Jobs, as described in EE1 page 127. This is also corroborated by the "Lilac" sidebar under the same Setoto Seto entry, where Lilac is described as "summoned from her father's soul crystal in an imperfect state".

    Are "soul crystals" and "soulstones" interchangeable?

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    Page 190, under the "Bill" entry in the Prominent Designs sidebar of the Two-Handed Axe section:

    By extending the haft and affixing hooked barbs atop the heads, Gridanian infantry were able to modify their standard-issue battleaxes into weapons which could withstand the traditionally devastating charge of enemy chocobo infantry.
    Cavalry, surely? Then again, Chocobos as foot soldiers in their own right could also be devastating, as we all learned in the Choco-Meteor Apocalypse of 4.3.

    (Did Gridania ever fight the Great Chocobo War?)
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    I'm pretty sure Soul Stones and Soul Crystals are interchangeable. At the very least, I see them used interchangeably in lore discussions even if they aren't used that way in game. That said, Lore Book I calls them Soul Crystals too.

    It also seems that different jobs call Soul Crystals/Souls different things to some degree. The Paladin, Ninja and Dragoon quests refer to them as "souls", the Dark Knight, Monk, Bard, White Mage, Scholar, Astrologian and Red Mage quests as "soul crystals", the Summoner quests call it a "gem" and then later "soul crystals", the Black Mage quests refers to it as a "gem" again, and the Samurai quests call it a "stone" and a "talisman". So it looks like there's plenty of ways to refer to the same thing.
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    (pointed out by Kanna Asano)

    PAGE: 259
    HEADING: Scalekin
    SUB-HEADING: Chelone

    Perhaps due to their formation in an environment of extreme salinity, the shells of this cousin to the adamantoise are remarkably light. So light, in fact, that for centuries the Ala Mhigans would use them as fishing boats. However, after the Garlean invasion, the Empire deemed the practice barbarian and outlawed it throughout the occupied territory, and in a mere thirty summers, an ancient tradition was lost.
    Should be twenty summers?
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