Quote Originally Posted by Melichoir View Post
From your account, the healer and DPS were in the wrong.

You werent undergeared for the dungeon, per say. Scratch that, you wre semi under geared, or atleast meeting the bare minimum iLvL. You shouldve had higher level gear. HOWEVER, this is also dependant on quite a few things. As a point, how fast you were leveling and how much dungeon running you do makes a difference in where you get your gear from. The Dungeon did let you run it, considering your iLvL, so whether you were 'under geared' from the perspective of the other players or not is irrelevant. The game's content allowed for you to be there, so your gear at that point is a moot aspect. What's more important at that point is what youre doing. If youre using Grit and properly CDing, than its your healer and DPSs fault. They have no recourse to saying "Youre under geared" if the dungeon is allowing you access. But this is the problem with DF broadly.

The trouble wtih DF and the like, particularly this late into the xpac, is people get lazy and forget that not everyone is iLvL 350+. They forget that bosses and mechanics dictate a certain level of play and understanding. So they go about trying to do things like they would with an 'overgeared' tank, and then when they get a tank thats fresh into that content and isnt iLvL capped, things go wrong and tehy get pissed that they have to actually use their heads and actually do the more 'boring' aspects of their jobs. They cant just tunnel vision and face roll.

At the end of the day, each role has hardset requirements. Tanks are supposed to tank the mechanics and hold hate, Healers are supposed to keep the party alive and well, and DPS are suppose to burn the boss and adds down. That is the most basic and fundamental part of the roles. Now there is overlap. Tanks and Healers are expected to DPS as well, DPS are expected to help with mitigation and hate management, Tanks are expected to CD properly to take the load of healers. So obviously it's not cut and dry. But at the end of the day, people have their roles and theyre expected to fill them at the minimum.

If the tank is taking damage and is properly CDing, it doesnt matter what their gear is, Healers and DPS need to assist in keeping the tank alive. Just like that tank needs to be keeping aggro so the DPS and healers are free to do their jobs.
Absolutely I agree that it doesn’t really matter if the tank is undergeared at all.
Understanding that its that whole party that has to help in content is key to us all getting along
Truth be told I don’t know why people are getting so upset over all this.
I think maybe we got off on the wrong foot? Idk
So in short, we shouldn’t really be arguing like this over simple things, we can all be friends right?
Maybe we should just leave it here?