SE, the concept of "Limited Jobs" is a really bad idea, turn back now

[jon041065]

Then the word you're looking for is "active" subscribers. You were dead wrong when you said FFXIV has a max of a million subscribers. When they do in fact have a lot more than that. But semantics aside...

And like I said earlier, that's too bad but you didn't have a realistic chance of doing that endgame content with BLU anyway. Without this limited job system they weren't even going to bother adding BLU at all. Popular job or not.

Meh, they're minds will only be changed when BLU actually premieres and how the base reacts to it. If it's hit, they plan on supporting it and adding new jobs under this new family of jobs. However, if it's universally disliked than I think it will follow the usual pattern of content like Diadem and Eureka. It will be improved upon and if it's still negative, overhaul it. I just don't see this realistically happening though. But I am repeatedly wrong, so who knows?

And I like to point out that your constant 'us vs them' mentality is very off-putting. "Our side", "your side", etc. At the very least it comes off as combative when we're just discussing a job introduction. Nothing actually serious.

Sure I could have said active but also I never said it maxes out at one million. Since SE doesn't release the active subs for each quarter, people have tried to use the Lodestone to get close and usually an average of around 800k to slightly over a million. Believe it was close to two million with the 4.0 launch. The constant "every month subscriber" count isn't crazy high and Yoshi P has said he's fine with people taking breaks and coming back for new patches/expacs.

Didn't have a realistic chance of doing endgame as blu? After Yoshi P saying that rdm would not work in the game and then them adding the job we started to think blu could definitely follow. Then there was an interview that came out a week or two after the 4.0 launch and Yoshi P was asked about future jobs and talked about how he wants to make a unique 14 job but also said that blu was highly requested. It was pretty reasonable for players to believe that blu would function in the full game if it were to be added.

Go check my other posts. I've been saying for weeks that I think that what both groups want is possible and I wish we could have a unified message to SE stating that. There's toxicity in both camps but I have not seen many from the "pro limited jobs" side say they are fine with SE working on a way for blu to work in the full game as long as they still got to have the Carnival and solo ability of blu.

If Squeenix comes up in the future with a limited tank, limited healer and another limited dps, they could make a 4 men version of the Masked Carnivale, or other forms of group content for limited jobs, expanding the solo aspect (as right now, it is solo play because well... there's only BLU). I think the possibility would be pretty awesome and give that something new many are lamenting its lacking in the usual formula. But if everyone cries for no limited jobs DELETE NOW, this possibility for new content won't ever see the tiniest of light. And that is quite sad imo

Change that to "content that you can do solo or low man" without the limited job concepts so that ALL combat jobs could participate and you would have a lot more people on board. There are people that are saying no to limited jobs period and there are others like myself saying no to THIS version. And it would be sad if there was no more solo content like the Carnival made after this experiment due to the backlash which is why many of us have said that we support the content but not at this cost. I want to see the two camps come together and say that we do want this type of content (or at least not against it) AND it not be at the cost of what the other side wants. Jobs that can work in the full game and there being solo side content like the Carnival if you choose to play that content.