Visiting other worlds, economy effect?

[thegreatonemal]

Most people will simply be too lazy to check all the servers and will simply buy stuff on the server they happen to be on at the time. Prices will stabilize within the month of the change.

[Seraphor]

It should result in a slow and gradual balancing of prices between servers.

We don't yet know how easy it will be to transfer between worlds. Yes we know we can use the Aetherytes in Gridania/Limsa/Uldah, but what with the teleportation cost be and will it take 10 minutes to load?
These answers will affect the rate and extent of which this market conformity will occur.

[Dreggit]

Bigger servers don't always have better prices, was talking to some of my cwls friends and apparently atm Nidhogg scales are cheaper on some of the smaller servers, due to the demand being met by what farmers they do have. As opposed to larger servers where the demand is so huge that farmers aren't anywhere close to supplying the demand.

What is the going rate for that? On Fam it's floating between 2.3-2.6 mil

[KageTokage]

I'm honestly afraid of people running marketboard bots to keep a data center's supply of certain items cleaned out by simply server hopping and buying out anything below a certain price threshold.

There are people with billions of gil to burn who could easily take control of an entire market if they wanted to.

[Mansion]

I'm honestly afraid of people running marketboard bots to keep a data center's supply of certain items cleaned out by simply server hopping and buying out anything below a certain price threshold.

But it's already the case within a server. And sometimes it's not so much of a bad thing to maintain some balance, not necessarily putting everything overpriced.
I'm keen to believe FFXIV's economy is mostly balancing itself quite smoothly, and opening acces to other worlds would introduce a larger scale balance, and maybe end up with some kind of data center-wide MB.

[Seraphor]

I going to disagree. Some low pop servers have ridiculous prices for "basic" stuff, players will check multiple servers before buying expensive stuff for sure.

Which would be a good thing, and thus lead to the stabilisation of prices throughout a data center.

[Mikki]

Which would be a good thing, and thus lead to the stabilisation of prices throughout a data center.

It's a good thing that prices will lower on smaller servers, generally speaking but I still have my concerns. Mainly, will bots drive prices so low that there will be no point in actual players competing? They'd have even more incentive to do this now, as a single bot's efficiency is increased ten fold if an entire server can purchase from it.

Also, how much of a pain in the arse will this be for people trying to remain competitive? I'm happy to price my goods lower, if it means they will still sell. However, going to another server when you want to buy something is less of a hassle than going to every server every time you want to SELL something just to check prices. I hope there will be some easier way to check prices across servers.



It's really difficult to know how this is going to pan out.... someone said earlier that congested worlds will not allow access to visitors. So for example, does this mean Balmung will pretty much never accept visitors since its status is perpetually congested? Or will it only not allow players onto it when the server is at full capacity, so off-hours would be available for visiting? If the latter is true, would this cause issues for people who consider Balmung their home server? Will they not be able to log in when there are too many visitors taking their slots? Will visitors get kicked off to allow "natives" to log on? It all seems so confusing, even outside of the economic aspect.

[Musashidon]

how much of a pain in the arse will this be for people trying to remain competitive?.

i will explain it like this you can make money buying iron from a npc for like 20gil and reselling it 200 plus on the mb even though anyone at any time can go buy it.

yes people will go to other servers but its a minority the prices will lower themselves you just have to stick with the flow like always. the people going to other servers aren't only buying them to save money but also come back to your server to resell at the higher price. they do the work you just adjust as needed.

no server will have a *i can't sell this because people just go to x server* people will always blindly buy.

[Asunna]

I’d like to know where is the information about being allowed to “buy” from another server has been said?
In the live letter it was said that:

“We discussed whether or not we could introduce a universal market board; however, this would require a major overhaul to the foundation of the sever, therefore, this would be difficult to do.”

Buying from a different server would/could be classify under a “universal” market board so my question is, minus this balance discord, where has this information been said? They talked about restrictions and made those very clear however, nothing about buying or trading has been officially, clearly said.

EDIT: If you didn’t watch the livestream yourself, how can you be sure that one person’s translation is correct? It would make ZERO sense to be able to purchase items from a different server but not sell. Those 2 goes together.

EDIT #2: I also saw someone posting a comment saying that they will be restriction on visiting "popular" worlds... Again, where did you see this?

EDIT #3: I keep seeing (not here per say) that this is coming out in January... sigh. If you read carefully, it's announced for the second part of 4.5 in March.

It's all fun and giggles to talk about what "could" happen but... don't mislead people on information that isn't officially released. Perhaps we'll be able to buy and trade, perhaps not. We'll probably find out on the next live letter but for now, we don't know.

[KageTokage]

They explicitly stated on the livestream that you'll be able to buy from other servers and that they hope the prices will balance out as a side-effect. That doesn't seem like something that could be mistranslated easily.

I'd be all for prices balancing out if not for the fact that they're being artificially skewed by the bots to be way lower then what they should be.

They're already running elaborate marketing schemes where they'll transfer mule accounts loaded with hundreds of items to other servers and sell everything off at ridiculously low prices (Presumably because they can make enough gil to cover the transfer fees...that or they're evading the fees with charge-backs as they often do). Now they won't even have to necessarily bother with this as people are likely to start using marketboard databases to locate the cheapest items on their data center.