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    Judas_Ramirez's Avatar
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    Damien Ramirezz
    World
    Shinryu
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Why are they needed for new players? DOH/DOL are not required to play or progress through the game, if anything they are more like side content which is completely optional, but leveling them does offer benefits. It's completely fine to have friends or know other people that can craft/gather for you, so there isn't really much urgency for the player themselves to do the leveling unless they really need/want to

    Also as it's been mentioned, it's extremely easy to level up DOH/DOL with things like beast tribes, levequests and other players helping out.
    You might want to rethink that, i pointed out a small part in what i said, But i suggest starting over & leveling a class to 70 then come back & restate that so i can reply accordingly!
    (heres some hints of issues: Meld, Advanced Meld, repair costs e.t.c. Which you need the Specific class to do) While not required they are also required if you want/need them done in Your Time & not waiting on other peoples time. Theres also the costs involved if you can't do them yourself, which as pointed out (elsewhere) is part of a larger probliem with the economy... Well lack of!

    To top this off theres also another bigger issue than the costs, lack of gil & lack of gear on the market is the Lack of shards, crystals, Clusters to even level them, you get a fair few from leve's but not enough to keep going.

    I highly suggest you & Squre Enix take the time to level from 0. you will see all these issues clear as DAY! So obvious even blind people could see them.
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    Tsubaki75's Avatar
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    Akatsubaki Dovakin
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Judas_Ramirez View Post
    You might want to rethink that, i pointed out a small part in what i said, But i suggest starting over & leveling a class to 70 then come back & restate that so i can reply accordingly! Snip
    I highly suggest you & Squre Enix take the time to level from 0. you will see all these issues clear as DAY! So obvious even blind people could see them.
    I don't understand why you need him to be 70 to offer an opinion since you don't have a 70 crafter yourself and his crafters are still higher than yours, not to mention he has 15 lvl 70 dow/dom to your 1, but anyway i'm not clear on why anyone would spend that much real money to lvl that many jobs.

    You should start leveling your gatherers 1st and keep their lvls above your crafters so you will never need to buy a matt or crystal from the marketboard.

    Also lvl all of your crafters in groups (all to 15 then all to 30 ect) you will save inv space on both materials and gear

    Sell your xtra items while you lvl your gatherers to keep making gil, learn the marketboard and see the things that sell, we still need low lvl matts for a lot of things.
    And while you are at it what are you doing with all of your mendacity? Your crafters don't need it now so you can sell those mendacity matts to make $

    Also don't worry about materia or hq gear until you cap you don't need either until lvl 70.

    And mabye next time do some leveling yourself before you try telling someone else to
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    ThunderGodThor's Avatar
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    Character
    Damien Dread
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Judas_Ramirez View Post
    You might want to rethink that, i pointed out a small part in what i said, But i suggest starting over & leveling a class to 70 then come back & restate that so i can reply accordingly!
    (heres some hints of issues: Meld, Advanced Meld, repair costs e.t.c. Which you need the Specific class to do) While not required they are also required if you want/need them done in Your Time & not waiting on other peoples time. Theres also the costs involved if you can't do them yourself, which as pointed out (elsewhere) is part of a larger probliem with the economy... Well lack of!

    To top this off theres also another bigger issue than the costs, lack of gil & lack of gear on the market is the Lack of shards, crystals, Clusters to even level them, you get a fair few from leve's but not enough to keep going.

    I highly suggest you & Squre Enix take the time to level from 0. you will see all these issues clear as DAY! So obvious even blind people could see them.
    I levelled from 1-70 on all of my DoH and DoL during Stormblood- check the date on my achievements if you don't believe me. You seriously overstate how difficult it is. A few gathers and crafts per day for GC turn ins, beast tribes and completing the crafters and gatherers log for the bonus xp all make it way too easy- and that's without even considering leves! Heck, past 50 gatherers become a breeze because of collectibles.

    If you CHOOSE to buy materials and gear instead of gathering and crafting them yourself, then yes, it will be expensive. But only because you CHOOSE to pay for convenience. Honestly, it's optional content and a boost would just cheapen the effort of those who have put the work in.
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