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  1. #11
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    JohnSpawnVFX's Avatar
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    Kaynneth Menad
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    Zodiark
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Double WHM new meta because of the 2 new "Get out of dead tank free" cards
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  2. #12
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    BroodingFicus's Avatar
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    Selahdis Gharl
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    Balmung
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Yeah no thanks. On paper it might sound strong but the only time it would feel safe to use would be in 4 man dungeon content where you don't have other healers around and even then there are moves out there among tanks and dps that heal so you'd have to be actively making sure those weren't up on use while hoping the person you used it on doesn't activate them just as you cast it either. Take that into a group setting like a raid? Now you also have to worry about the person you used it on getting healed by another healer or hit but an aoe heal as you're trying to top off the rest of the group and lets hope no one has a HoT on them like medica II etc. I'd imagine a lot of deaths caused by things like that. All that said it seems like it would be stressful to use and most often better to just heal the target rather than risk it something going horribly wrong.
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    "Speak softly, and carry a big stick." -Healers motto brought to you by President Theodore Roosevelt

  3. #13
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    Dreggit's Avatar
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    Helfgrin Dreggit
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Seems people don't like the idea, is okay ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    It doesn't matter to me either way if it were in the game or not. Though, I'm not really sure what more a healer will get kit-wise that'd be a gamechanger at 70. I'm sure healer mains are curious I'm sure.
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  4. #14
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    AmemeAmeklin's Avatar
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    Ameme Ame'klin
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    Goblin
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Making it a damage shield would be preferable I think...or something like reflect, even.

    Have it last 3 seconds, force healers to time it perfectly with tankbusters!
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  5. #15
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    Mansion's Avatar
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    I always thought adding more "external cooldowns" like this could be interesting for healers. But that would request a fight with far more frequent tank busters than the ones we currently have.
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  6. #16
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    Reynhart Kristensen
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreggit View Post
    Though, I'm not really sure what more a healer will get kit-wise that'd be a gamechanger at 70.
    Reraise and FullLife would be nice. A short duration/long CD Reflect would be a godsend for magical tankbuster.
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    Last edited by Reynhart; 12-06-2018 at 07:36 PM.

  7. #17
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    Jandor's Avatar
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    Tal Young
    World
    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I'd use it kill party members for a laugh, I wouldn't be able to help myself.
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  8. #18
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    Khuja'to Binbotaj
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lusavari View Post
    This has extremely high potential for trolling and abuse. Worse that Rescue.
    Troubadour + mages ballad can wipe the party with a button press during attacks that put the party down to 1HP (common in raids), have you ever seen anyone troll with that?
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  9. #19
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 80
    An interesting idea, but I can see two problems:

    1. Something that requires full lilies won't work unless the entire lily mechanic is reworked (as it should TBH). WHM has too many abilities that consume lilies and too little incentive to use abilities that generate lilies. It would require planning and preparation to have a full three lilies up at the time Reverse is needed.

    2. It's extremely dangerous in content with multiple healers. If the other healer isn't paying constant attention to this specific thing they can very easily end up killing the target Reverse was supposed to save. With the amount of other things also requiring attention slip-ups will likely happen more often than not.
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  10. #20
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreggit View Post
    Additionally, if it were introduced it could be an occasional raid mechanic of bosses and whatnot that healers have to watch for.... which would segwey into the additional thought of introducing a dispel ability of sorts
    healers already have a lot of mechanics to look out for, especially for o12s. To me this sounds like a free Tank LB3 every 3-5 minutes.
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