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  1. #51
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    TheVigilant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    You're still missing the point. The Joycon is not meant for ease of use for an MMO in mind and with XIV's toggle hotbars. I imagine trying to manage multiple hot bars on those things would be not fun at all and somewhat challenging, even worse if you had them apart. So, not only would the Switch be limited in hardware, but now primary functions with a controller. The reason that the Xbox controller works so well is BECAUSE the Xbox was also designed in mind with games having online, competitive multiplayer capabilities that would need more precise button inputs and control.

    Even using a Gamecube controller for XIV would feel clunky and weird with hot bar management controls, pet controls, jobs with more complex rotations, and in-game actions that utilize R3.

    It's possible, but it would also feel like a severe downgrade at the same time in comparison towards what we have now.
    I only use the joycons when they are attached to my Switch on the go but when docked it's only the pro controller that I'm comfortable playing with, regardless I would still play on a mouse and keyboard while on the Switch just as I do while on PS4 and PC, though I stopped playing FFXIV on the PS4 a long while ago.
    I'm sure Yoshi thought of what is bothering you before already and he still went seeking Nintendo so it seems he doesn't see a great issue, or as much of a concern as you seem to express. I also tried the game on the Switch's pro controller on PC and it felt fine but I'm not a controller person when it comes to MMO so I stopped soon enough after I tried.
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  2. #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra View Post
    You're still missing the point. The Joycon is not meant for ease of use for an MMO in mind and with XIV's toggle hotbars. I imagine trying to manage multiple hot bars on those things would be not fun at all and somewhat challenging, even worse if you had them apart. So, not only would the Switch be limited in hardware, but now primary functions with a controller. The reason that the Xbox controller works so well is BECAUSE the Xbox was also designed in mind with games having online, competitive multiplayer capabilities that would need more precise button inputs and control.

    Even using a Gamecube controller for XIV would feel clunky and weird with hot bar management controls, pet controls, jobs with more complex rotations, and in-game actions that utilize R3.

    It's possible, but it would also feel like a severe downgrade at the same time in comparison towards what we have now.
    I see a one sided opinion of "I feel this wouldn't work for me." I'm saying there are more options for the Switch than just that one controller you posted, bringing up the Joy-Cons separate, there's the Pro-Controller and Smash has shown that Nintendo is willing to make their console backwards compatible for an older controller that works exceptionally well for it. I'd dare gamble to say if FFXIV were put on the Switch, and none of the controllers measured up, either they or third party business would make an acceptable controller.

    Even then, there's already a way to make the Xbox One, 360 and PS4 controllers work on the Switch.
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    9.23.2019 [11:15 p.m.]Total Play Time: 1552 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes - You'll be hard-pressed to find a more cynical person than me.
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    You people are never happy.
    [...] You complain and complain and complain.

  3. #53
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    Again why in the world would they put FFXIV on the Switch when they just stopped support on the PS3? for Nintendo to even have a chance at having FFXIV on the Switch is if the new Switch is AS POWERFUL AS THE FREAKING PLAYSTATION 5.....and even if they did put it on a crappy switch hardware they are going to run into the same damn problem they had on the PS3 which was LIMITATIONS! and there is no way in hell SE would make separate servers for just switch users so you can toss that idea out the window....can we please stop bringing up ideas that would hold FFXIV back? its like SE is trying to take a step forward but then the community makes these ass backward ideas to take two steps back....
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    I see a one sided opinion of "I feel this wouldn't work for me." I'm saying there are more options for the Switch than just that one controller you posted, bringing up the Joy-Cons separate, there's the Pro-Controller and Smash has shown that Nintendo is willing to make their console backwards compatible for an older controller that works exceptionally well for it. I'd dare gamble to say if FFXIV were put on the Switch, and none of the controllers measured up, either they or third party business would make an acceptable controller.

    Even then, there's already a way to make the Xbox One, 360 and PS4 controllers work on the Switch.
    There's nothing one sided, I'm stating what is already plain and clear as day to see based on the looks and feel of a Joycon and Gamecube controller against what we know about regarding Microsoft and Sony controllers, and also what genre of games they're all being used in. You're reading too much into things and feelings that aren't even there. Are you sure it's not your opinion that seems one-sided simply because you want and think XIV could work on a Switch?

    Controllers for the Xbox and PS4 were built with highly competitive gaming and MMO's in mind. The Gamecube, Dreamcast, and Joycons were not, it's not an opinion, it's a factual observation based on how radically different and ergonomically designed they all are which is plain as day to see and judge on. Nothing on the Switch requires as much precision or button multitasking that XIV does in regard towards hot bar switching on the fly, especially for certain jobs with a less than a minute reaction time sometimes. The Joycons were designed for ease of use for Nintendo's casual and party games, not for an MMO. Most, if not all of Nintendo's target audience and fanbase are casual gamers. I'm sorry if that bluntness ruffles your feathers a little bit.

    Unless the Switch presented a free Pro Controller with every XIV purchase for that console, it's going to be hard to get people to buy a $60 controller simply for playing XIV if they don't already own one and are first-time buyers of the console unit.

    If they made XIV for the Switch, why should anyone go through all of these extra steps to make a controller work for XIV or make their PS4 and Xbox controller work on a foreign console, or even get a third party business to do it when we've got several other options that have worked fine for years that none of us have had to go the extra miles for to begin with. It seems less cost effective and more high maintenance, not to mention pricey in general to hit a market.....that may not even be old enough to play XIV in the first place.
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    Last edited by Sigma-Astra; 12-05-2018 at 05:17 PM.

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