It's been 5 years, can we remove the job restriction on glamours?

[Jonnycbad]

They will never do this, instead they could implement pieces that roughly resemble certain job pieces, but they will never let a warrior glamour AF WHM robes for example, or make a BLM able to glamour full Dragonlancer gear.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Did you even read the posts? Post like one single mob and fail to even see someone even posted a video of a bunch of copy pastes. No one said all models were. Learn to read all the posts your replying to before you reply to it. Then again logic is hard for some people.

Also, you claimed first it was direct copies. Now it's just similarities. Which one is it after all?

I don't know what's with you people that seem to think things equal/similar between two games from the same franchise from the same company is somehow bad and should be despised.

Are you going to keep ignoring these points and just throwing ad hominems? Because the first one shows you're just moving goalposts.

[Erza_Scarlets]

Also, you claimed first it was direct copies. Now it's just similarities. Which one is it after all?

I don't know what's with you people that seem to think things equal/similar between two games from the same franchise from the same company is somehow bad and should be despised.

Are you going to keep ignoring these points and just throwing ad hominems? Because the first one shows you're just moving goalposts.

You failed to read the first post I made. I gave similarities and direct copy examples. Also no one stated even once that it was bad for them to use similar or copied models from same franchise so don't claim that. Like none of my posts said anything about it being bad. I was just showing there are many similarities and copies from XI in XIV, not that it was wrong and there shouldn't be any. In fact it's nice to see they don't abandon older models of mobs and do use things from older games in this one.

Also stating X and Y are mob family in the game is obvious and which is why I said models not monster families or types.

[Raven2014]

I know the Chinese made the mistake, but that is the same thing as allowing PLD artifact gear being worn by anyone. Let the specific classes/jobs keep their gear. Limit it to opening up subgroups like DoH, maiming, and so on.

The real problem is crafters cannot use such glamours without taking up 8 of their 10 plate slots.

That's not the only problem. Even if I can use just ONE set for ALL crafting class, I would be ok. At least I can still rotate between 2-3 sets. But there is no point of glamouring a coat from ALC and rarely see it. I'm not asking for DoH gears to be available to DoW/DoM (but not that I mind).

And to be frank, with the Omni glamour gears available on the cash shop/seasonal gears, any logic or rationality behind the everyone look the same/class inappropriate arguments are pretty much death and buried. Any restriction thus server nothing but an arbitrary barrier.

[Zsolen]

That's not the only problem. Even if I can use just ONE set for ALL crafting class, I would be ok. At least I can still rotate between 2-3 sets. But there is no point of glamouring a coat from ALC and rarely see it. I'm not asking for DoH gears to be available to DoW/DoM (but not that I mind).

And to be frank, with the Omni glamour gears available on the cash shop/seasonal gears, any logic or rationality behind the everyone look the same/class inappropriate arguments are pretty much death and buried. Any restriction thus server nothing but an arbitrary barrier.

That's no different than Black Mage wearing Dragoon artifact gear. The artifact/class specific gearsets work for people that want a distinguished look exclusive to that job. If people could claim any look with any job, that ability to look like a specific job or specific crafting or gathering class is removed.

[Renato]

My question is why is SE so adamant on not doing this though? Is it that much easier to just recreate a recolored piece of armor than just to remove the restrictions altogether. And that's frustrating because instead of making new armor sets for the next expansions, it gives SE the excuse to just put recolored gear out there. SB has been so lackluster with new sets simply because we've seen them already from HW. There are very few SB exclusive weapons and armors that actually look good.

This has been something the community has been asking for for years and they refuse to break when it comes to this. I really would have liked to ask Yoshi this at the fanfest on the spot.

[Lubu_Mykono]

removing job restrictions on glamours automatically ruins the economies on certain items
Plus, it means that they have extra incentive to make glamour items priortise to certain roles.
Meaning, an average player, has to spend more time getting the item they want.

long term = more time played = more sub costs = more coin on the dresser for Square Enix.

[Fynlar]

That's no different than Black Mage wearing Dragoon artifact gear. The artifact/class specific gearsets work for people that want a distinguished look exclusive to that job. If people could claim any look with any job, that ability to look like a specific job or specific crafting or gathering class is removed.

I'm pretty sure all the AF armor, at time of release, was meant to be used for more than just looks, so let's not act like that was its only purpose.

[Zsolen]

I'm pretty sure all the AF armor, at time of release, was meant to be used for more than just looks, so let's not act like that was its only purpose.

Of course they weren't, but that is their current role.

[Gemina]

Lol ignorance is bliss. Clearly you miss the whole point and try to play it off like you know what your talking about. You claim there isn't that much similarities, then are given evidence of a ton and still think you somehow know what your talking about. Clearly you have not played the games to think you know. Do some actual research then try to talk.

Also I was talking about Ares's set and Koenig from XI both are directly taken from XI.(Wootz sets in XIV.)

Got to love debating with someone who starts their post off with, "lol". Hell OK, why not? For shitzngiggles.

First off, since you quoted me initially, I'm kind of the one on the defensive. So if I have to repeat myself, it would be you who is missing the point. Which is the case here. I won't deny that their are similarities between XI and XIV. Having played the former for 5.5 years, and going on 3 with this one I recognize them.

However, the poster I quoted took it a bit further and was stating that XI and XIV inspire each other, and clearly has grown tired of "this isn't FFXI" rebuttals. What seems to ruffle your feathers is that I dismiss the similarities, which is exactly what I'm doing; not claiming there aren't any. And the reason why I am dismissing them is because the similarities the two games share in comparison to what BOTH games take from the franchise is a shrub amongst a forest.

So before telling me that I don't know what I'm talking about, I suggest you actually know what the hell I am talking about. The fanservice to games prior to XI is so vast, showing me sets of gear that belong in both games as grounds of how alike the two games are is about as convincing as telling me it's ok to walk down a dark alley.