Late to the BLU Party

[Mibgestalt]

So, if you are actually okay with throwing out everything that consititute BLU's identity, what's left that you actually like? Because when I read stuff like this:then I am really questionning what aspect of BLU you love so much, because statements like these basically throw every situational/gimmicky skills out of the window (which, again, is 95% of what Blue Magic was about in older FF titles). For me, it translates to: "I don't care about how BLU plays as long as it's called BLU and works in all battle content". And, no offense, but that seems to be a really weak reason to support non-limited BLU specifically.

You are fine with giving up so much that it genuinely makes me wonder what you actually like with Blue Mages and Blue Magic in general.

Personally I find arguments like this to be some of the weakest and most offensive, really. You're trying to diminish what other people like about the class to make it seem like the Limited version we're getting is some "true distilled essence of the job" that only the truly devoted and worthy will appreciate, as though you're qualified to decide that. You call out some random guy for saying Blue Mage is a nuke mage, and then make a patently false claim that "95% of Blue Magic in older FF titles is situational or gimmicky". Of all of Blue Mage's spells, even in older titles where the most gimmicky and situational spells are, 30-40% are just straight damage spells of various elements. There are more straight damage spells in every iteration of Blue Mage (except Quina but he's about as unorthodox as it gets and no one is here whining BLU doesn't use a Fork except me), as opposed to support or debilitating or "quirky".
Do you even like Blue Mage to be misrepresenting it so much just to fill your Limited Job agenda? Like... what do YOU even like about it?

It's honestly pretty disrespectful to people just for having their own opinions and liking different facets about the job. It's like me saying that people who love the Lvl 3, 4, 5, ? spells don't like Blue Mage and should just wait for Arithmetician to be added because their idea of Blue Mage isn't ACTUALLY Blue mage. Just because someone likes it more for casting and learning monster skills, or the aesthetic, or whatever doesn't make the job any less important to them. And even if you force someone to concede that, OKAY, guess they don't REALLY like Blue Mage, it's STILL not wrong for people who love and play FFXIV to want a class to be adjusted to play it in all of FFXIV.

[Alleo]

Personally I find arguments like this to be some of the weakest and most offensive, really. You're trying to diminish what other people like about the class to make it seem like the Limited version we're getting is some "true distilled essence of the job" that only the truly devoted and worthy will appreciate, as though you're qualified to decide that.

I dont really know why people go around and say that this is the faithful version when Blue was used in a party in other games, had it get skills from monsters(which it would still do anyway) and other than that it was different enough from game to game as far as I can see.

So having it in it like its now but give it a rotation for duties too would imo not change the job itself that much. I mean its not like people can always use all the skills all the time anyway since you need to choose around 20 of them and its not like we can learn every single spell from a monster either, its still restricted to those spells that they choose.

Thus they could have just said that you are restricted from using the duty if you dont have all the skills, then if you have all the skills unlocked they could just give you certain skills for duties and the rest is solo only content. This could even finally introduce a job that is less static and maybe more advanced to use. But instead they went the easiest way with it and just left it completely unbalanced and solo only.