BLU for Duty Finder and Raids! Show your support!

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We are not mad because it doesnt fit our image of BLU. In fact, what we have seen was impressive. The trailer was hype as hell and the acquiring of skills was great. Im 100% sure it will be fun to play. But our issue is against the limited job concept itself and how it kills the dreams of those that wanted to main BLU.

- Skill acquiring is great and true to BLU image.
- The Masked Carnival is a nice addition.

100% Agreed

What else is there for this job? Almost nothing.

- Level 50 cap, stuck in 2.0 era.
- no DF/ hard to party up.
- Limited access to other SOLO content in the game.
- once you finish collecting spells, and doing the Masked Carnival, you basically park it til next update 3-6 months later.

We didn't ask for a new triple triad feature in a different clothing. We want to play the damn game.

Think of Blu as a Public Beta (Which it pretty much is), and we're getting to test it out in its starting stages. We should be happy they're giving anything big like this, since after Rogue/Ninja came out, they had said they regretted having a mid pre-expansion class drop because it unbalanced the DF. Everyone and their mothers just about was playing it.... myself included.

And it's more action filled than waiting for many of the unbalanced TT NPCs to take their turns.

A good example is the mage tower challenge in wow legion (i know i know). That was a very well made solo content in a different mmo without limiting the classes.

WoW is one of the MMOs I never bothered to play, due to before XIV, I didn't really have friends who were interested in online games like this, so I'll have to search that on youtube and give it a look.

The majority of my side does not wish for solo content to be removed. We want restrictions removed.

It's basically you are on their side, they're not on 'your side', as you put it. Like how I'm on the side that wants the Blu they're currently working on before any major overhauling. We don't know the full product, and they're being kind enough to give this to us before an expac drops, giving them some time to make some changes before/during the expac dropping

I don't buy into the "not having a spell so kicked" reasoning because if those players are that worried then make a premade group. But if there has to be some solution to this, then there are ways to make that work too. Completion of the Carnival could unlock the job in the rest of the game.

That would actually be interesting, if they do decide to handle it that way.

And I've been kicked for being new. I've been kicked for not knowing my rotation on a class I got freshly to 50. Warriors used to be kicked if they never learned Provoke originally. If someone can word something into 'they didn't match my playstyle', they can be kicked. People are worse when you don't see their faces.

Some players don't join FCs, and some players don't know many people in game, due to keeping quiet/just not being interested in mingling outside of what is needed.

They are already recycling skills for this iteration of blue mage. Most blue magic is just copy/paste of other spells with new skins or pulled from eureka. Also, most FF games do not have a large pool of blue magic spells. Most have been under 40. Only FFXI really had a massive pool of them.

Technically the skills were pulled from elsewhere and then put into Eureka. And it's still a total skill pool for them to possibly draw from, leaving us with around 200 plus-ish total blue mage skills used in FF games as a whole. They seem to be going with more famous/known skills, 1000 needles/bad breath/a few primal skills, from what we've seen, so more unique looks.

I would have preferred a tank blu but here's my idea for how blu could be adjusted to be different from other jobs as well as ideas from some others.

There are not may players that are against there being solo content in the game. I'm all for it in the right context.

Check my posts here.

I do agree that Onion Knight could be a great Solo class with skills that wouldn't work well in party content (aka op skills). I really don't think much could be said to make me prefer what I've seen from SE right now for Blu though. I've seen your post before about it, and I really didn't agree with it. It felt way too simple for Blu's overall feel.

[jon041065]

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Do you agree that they should be shooting for more than blue mage just being a solo job? Like having a toggle to turn on "broken mode" as a duty finder setting or straight up a 2nd job crystal for a version of blu that can work in the full game? That way no one loses.

Your first few posts didn't make me think you're someone that would want the middle ground but your last one here is making me reconsider that first impression.

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Do you agree that they should be shooting for more than blue mage just being a solo job? Like having a toggle to turn on "broken mode" as a duty finder setting or straight up a 2nd job crystal for a version of blu that can work in the full game? That way no one loses.

Your first few posts didn't make me think you're someone that would want the middle ground but your last one here is making me reconsider that first impression.

I believe they should be focusing on what they want to show us first. Everything going with changing Blu should be saved until after we've had ample time to digest the class and fully think about it, instead of demanding changes before something even occured. We don't know what this new system could possibly open up in the future. Who knows, they could even make special group content that's only for Limited Jobs if they do well at making different ones in the future, maybe something to compete with friends/party members.

If, and only if, they decide to do the middle group to try to appease the majority by giving people 'a little bit of everything', I'll....'support', but there's a good chance I won't be anywhere near as happy as I am with what they've shown us. Mostly due to wanting a solo based class or two that actually are made for solo combat. If we get more than that when it'd be like all my namesdays have come at once.... so to speak.

[jon041065]

I believe they should be focusing on what they want to show us first. Everything going with changing Blu should be saved until after we've had ample time to digest the class and fully think about it, instead of demanding changes before something even occured. We don't know what this new system could possibly open up in the future. Who knows, they could even make special group content that's only for Limited Jobs if they do well at making different ones in the future, maybe something to compete with friends/party members.

If, and only if, they decide to do the middle group to try to appease the majority by giving people 'a little bit of everything', I'll....'support', but there's a good chance I won't be anywhere near as happy as I am with what they've shown us. Mostly due to wanting a solo based class or two that actually are made for solo combat. If we get more than that when it'd be like all my namesdays have come at once.... so to speak.

First paragraph I have no problems with besides "limited job content". They should make a separate game then instead of having a huge side to the game that I doubt they would have the resources for and split the player base. There is no way to change things before 5.0 and probably a bit after that. In fact, I say that they should continue on with their current plan for blue mage. Put in the updates and make it full fleshed out. Just want them to also be working for a full version of the job to be added later on which would probably end up being a feature of the 6.0 expac.

You would be unhappy if there were two versions of blue mage or a toggle in DF to have the option of OP blue mage? Trying to make sure I understand since things wouldn't change for you and the others that want it as solo content.

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First paragraph I have no problems with besides "limited job content". They should make a separate game then instead of having a huge side to the game that I doubt they would have the resources for and split the player base. There is no way to change things before 5.0 and probably a bit after that. In fact, I say that they should continue on with their current plan for blue mage. Put in the updates and make it full fleshed out. Just want them to also be working for a full version of the job to be added later on which would probably end up being a feature of the 6.0 expac.

You would be unhappy if there were two versions of blue mage or a toggle in DF to have the option of OP blue mage? Trying to make sure I understand since things wouldn't change for you and the others that want it as solo content.

You can't say with 100% guarantee that things wouldn't remain the same for all the people, myself included, that want the Blu solo content. And yes, I wouldn't be happy if they split Blu into solo and raid content like so many people are demanding, before it's even seen in full. Many people that are outraged (Not all, just many) are so due to Blu not fitting what they think Blu should be, some of which were probably planning on becoming Blu main before anything about the class came out. Some are outraged probably due to being afraid that the introduction of a Limited Job will take away from their experience in end game content.

There will be people are always afraid of anything new and non-traditional. I'm ready to see something that breaks the mould.

[jon041065]

You can't say with 100% guarantee that things wouldn't remain the same for all the people, myself included, that want the Blu solo content. And yes, I wouldn't be happy if they split Blu into solo and raid content like so many people are demanding, before it's even seen in full. Many people that are outraged (Not all, just many) are so due to Blu not fitting what they think Blu should be, some of which were probably planning on becoming Blu main before anything about the class came out. Some are outraged probably due to being afraid that the introduction of a Limited Job will take away from their experience in end game content.

There will be people are always afraid of anything new and non-traditional. I'm ready to see something that breaks the mould.

So you would be unhappy if other people got what they wanted even if SE still updated blue mage and the Carnival as they already said they will be? Why? I'm on the side the "outrage side" and the reasons you stated are valid reasons for us to be unhappy.

Do you just not want this to change because "not everything has to be for everyone" or is there another reason? That first one would be a very immature reason to be unhappy if SE tried to compromise.

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So you would be unhappy if other people got what they wanted even if SE still updated blue mage and the Carnival as they already said they will be? Why? I'm on the side the "outrage side" and the reasons you stated are valid reasons for us to be unhappy.

Do you just not want this to change because "not everything has to be for everyone" or is there another reason? That first one would be a very immature reason to be unhappy if SE tried to compromise.

Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I would be unhappy if they took anything away with how they promised it in solo content thus far, if it was made for 'everyone to do everything' with it and lost what they were trying to do. I thought I was being careful with my words, but you seemed to have twisted them around.

And please pay attention where I specifically said this highlighted bit.

I wouldn't be happy if they split Blu into solo and raid content like so many people are demanding, before it's even seen in full.

I'm a bit miffed that many people are throwing Blu under the bus because it's so different compared to what we've had existing since day one.

Though I still stand by my words of 'not everything has to be for everyone'. A lot of people never touch crafting or gathering. And many people don't touch most classes outside of 1-2 for raid/their personal preference for just everyday/casual stuff. And just like all other classes Blu will not be something everyone will touch as well.

I'm not saying people can't have their own opinions, but I think it's being thrown way out of scope with how much hate there is for SE daring to attempt something new. If game companies didn't do that, everything would be just the same thing under a different costume.

And I wouldn't be unhappy if they split Blu to do solo/everything else content, but I wouldn't be as happy if they changed their designs before we got to see what they came up with. So please don't twist my words to try to make it look like I'm saying something rather bitter.