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    If that's the question, then the answer is already in the game: you can link your glamour plates to gearsets, and they will automatically be applied when you equip the gear.

    1. Open Character --> Gear Set menu
    2. Right-click / press Square on the set
    3. "Link to Glamour Plate"
    4. Choose glamour plate.

    It will still only work in places where glamour plates can be applied, though.


    If you mean something more like having two glamour slots on each piece of gear, I think that's a lot less likely. That's the sort of system-rebuilding changes the plate system has been built to work around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
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    One of the problems with this though is the constant spam of text that shows up in chat saying "X takes on the appearance of Y". If they remove this or give Glamour text it's own filter that would go a long way, along with giving us more Glamour Plates in total. By having more plates and being able to link them without the spam could allow players to have more customisation options akin to what OP is suggesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    One of the problems with this though is the constant spam of text that shows up in chat saying "X takes on the appearance of Y". If they remove this or give Glamour text it's own filter that would go a long way, along with giving us more Glamour Plates in total. By having more plates and being able to link them without the spam could allow players to have more customisation options akin to what OP is suggesting.
    A possible workaround for this, if you switch classes more often than you need to reapply the plates, could be to have a "normal" gear set not linked to anything, and a "switching" gearset linked to the plate, that you only equip when you want to change the glamour? But yes, being able to block those system messages would be good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If that's the question, then the answer is already in the game: you can link your glamour plates to gearsets, and they will automatically be applied when you equip the gear.

    1. Open Character --> Gear Set menu
    2. Right-click / press Square on the set
    3. "Link to Glamour Plate"
    4. Choose glamour plate.

    It will still only work in places where glamour plates can be applied, though.


    If you mean something more like having two glamour slots on each piece of gear, I think that's a lot less likely. That's the sort of system-rebuilding changes the plate system has been built to work around.
    There's one big problem with it that everyone who keeps bringing up this argument ignores, and I think that's why the guy who asked the question gave an exasperated "kinda" when his question was misunderstood for probably the 999th time.

    Glamour plates can only be applied in cities. That would be great if that was the only place you could change jobs, but it's not, we can do it nearly anywhere. Except plates cannot be applied anywhere, so linking a plate to a gearset does diddly poo if you're, say in Mor Dhona, or The Ruby Sea, or Eureka, or any other of the vast majority of locations in the game where glamour plates don't function.

    So imagine that you have the Scaevan Coat of Casting equipped that is your BIS chest piece for both SMN and RDM. You have 2 job-specific glamour plates but each uses a job-exclusive AF glamour for the chest slot: Duelist's Tabard for RDM and Channeler's Vest for SMN. You can link those plates to their respective gearsets, and as long as you're in a city, everything is fine, the ugly robe glamours into your pretty AF appearance seamlessly.
    However, you decide to go into Eureka, because maybe you're feeling masochistic that day or something. In Kugane, before entering, you put on your SMN gearset (Scaevan Coat of Casting with Channeler's Vest glamoured onto it). Once inside, you look for a party, you find one, you look at the party makeup and notice there aren't any RDMs in it (let's also assume this is an upside-down alternative universe). So you, being a team-player and an altruist, volunteer to switch to RDM. So you do...

    ...and you end up with a massive chatlog spam full of red "can't use glamour plates in this location", look at your character and see her wearing... the ugliest abomination of a half-glamoured outfit! The centerpiece of which is of course an unglamoured Scaevan Coat of Casting. Which technically still has Channeler's Vest glamour attached but it doesn't show up because that glamour is only visible when you're SMN (don't ask me why, it's supposed to be an illusion, you can turn plate armour into a swimsuit, why does Artifact Gear suddenly care?)

    It of course goes without saying that everyone else in the instance, the other 143 people, instantly see you regardless of where they are on the map and they are absolutely disgusted with your fashion faux pas. Your party cannot bear the sight of you and you are kicked, everyone else in Eureka refuses to let you in because you look like a clown. Someone calls a GM, they take one look at you and put you in the gaol for a month to prevent people from unsubbing whenever they see your awful outfit. Servers crash, datacenters burn down, YoshiP loses his job, the entire Square Enix goes under and all of their IPs are acquired by EA and they announce FIFA Fantasy XVI the very same day. And it's all YOUR fault because you tried to create glamour plates that use AF pieces on a role-shared piece of gear.

    I feel that was the actual problem the person was trying to bring up, but he found it difficult to explain n_n

    And yes I find it incredibly frustrating too because it's not exactly easy to explain even though I know exactly what I'm talking about but always someone comes along with the "but you can link glamour plates" suggestion, which is... not very useful because it doesn't work in most situations. And anyone who brings up the problem of it not working clearly already knows that.

    (Please don't take it the wrong way, I'm not irritated at you, I just quoted you to help illustrate the problem. I'm just irritated at this problem constantly being deflected, misunderstood or just plain ignored. I am sorry if I any of my hyperboles go too far or my tone sounds too aggressive, please take it with a grain of salt and tongue in cheek ^^)

    So in short: neither adding more plates nor linking glamours to gearsets will solve the underlying issue.
    However, it could potentially be solved in one of two ways:
    • SE allows us to apply glamour plates in any place where we can also change jobs (so pretty much anywhere except instanced dungeons) or
    • SE allows glamours to ignore job restrictions

    I'd be happy with either, but either has to happen if my dead shrivelled heart is to ever feel joy, love or existential validation again.
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    Last edited by Bonbori; 11-24-2018 at 01:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    So imagine that you have the Scaevan Robe of Casting equipped that is your BIS chest piece for both SMN and RDM. You have 2 job-specific glamour plates but each uses a job-exclusive AF glamour for the chest slot: Duelist's Tabard for RDM and Channeler's Vest for SMN. You can link those plates to their respective gearsets, and as long as you're in a city, everything is fine, the ugly robe glamours into your pretty AF appearance seamlessly.
    However, you decide to go into Eureka, because maybe you're feeling masochistic that day or something. In Kugane, before entering, you put on your SMN gearset (Scaevan Robe of Casting with Channeler's Vest glamoured onto it). Once inside, you look for a party, you find one, you look at the party makeup and notice there aren't any RDMs in it (let's also assume this is an upside-down alternative universe). So you, being a team-player and an altruist, volunteer to switch to RDM. So you do...
    Hyperbole aside, I actually take that as something of a challenge!

    My main summoner outfit is built around the Lv50 relic coat, but all the other pieces are generic caster or all-classes (True Griffin gloves, Amatsu skirt, Gambler's boots) with the specific intent that it will still look okay if I have to switch to red mage out in the field! And even then, I still have my second-best mage coat glamoured with the Duelist's Tabard, which would be fine for Eureka anyway...

    (And actually, the Scaevan coat is one of the few things I don't mind letting go unglamoured as a RDM coat. It beats the bulky samurai robes by a long shot.)

    Which is a long wander off your actual point, I know, but still - it's something you can plan for and work around.
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