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    Hayshade's Avatar
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    N'ero Bael
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    Tonberry
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    Rogue Lv 70

    this is an MMO SquareEnix

    Hi, first time ever post on any FFXIV forum. I have to say i'm not a long time final fantasy player, being FFXIV is my first title, but when i first heard of BlueMage about a year ago i knew this was the one class i wanted to play above all others. it goes without saying i am that irritated that this job is "Solo-content" and "limited".

    SquareEnix, i love that you are trying your Hardest to give us new content and keep your MMO alive but the Job system is not and wasn't broken or breaking so i'm baffled. Players may want to do some activities on there own BUT this is an MMO with the premise of online meaning playing with other people. Limiting this and potentially limiting other Jobs in future will ruin what it means to play in an MMO. Solo content in areas is ok but FFXIV has always been about coming together as a player base.

    I will play BlueMage cause i will never not play the content provided but i will NEVER be ok with this and i hope that no one gives you reason to believe this is ok. If you aren't going to make a job able to do all content then it should not exist till you are ready to implement it in a way that will work within FFXIV.

    i STRONGLY hope you rework BlueMage to be apart of FFXIV job system instead of turning jobs into content and drop this notion of "Limited job".
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    Lynn Nuvestrahl
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    Moogle
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    Machinist Lv 90
    I hope SE reinvents Blue Mage the same it has done with many other jobs: DRK, RDM, SMN, BRD etc. Don't be stuck in the traditions and try to implement concepts that don't fit into MMOs or the rest of the game content (mostly group oriented). I'm going to be so disappointed if Limited Jobs become a thing and Beastmaster gets shoved into some random minion mini-game. I'd love to have a FFX-2 style pet fighter job to actually raid and fight primals with, though the pet system needs an overall overhaul before that (pets are too unresponsive at the moment).
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    Darkpaw's Avatar
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    Akio Foxx
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    And the point of this is what? It’s an mmo so it has to follow the footprints of every mmo before it? No room for innovation or experimentation? I get the backlash on blue mage, I don’t agree with the condemnation of it before we’ve even tried it but I understand why people are apprehensive and worried.

    Does every piece of content in an mmo have to be co-op or pvp and no room for any solo content? So what about the people who try to solo old content through the unsync feature? Solo’ing PotD and HoH? Are they just wasting their time and should they be forced off a game they enjoy because they want some solo content?

    We may not really like the concept, we may not agree with the design choices. But from a business perspective. This is a smart move if executed properly for the long term growth and continuation of this game. Because it opens up this game to a much broader audience including traditional final fantasy fans who may want a more traditional final fantasy feel. This could bring some of them to the game to try this version of the blue mage.

    We as a community asked for them to take chances and asked for them to be innovative and try new things. The second they do we rail against them as if they have personally slighted us. Urging them to change something we know little about and have no idea what the future holds makes no sense especially since we haven’t even given it a chance yet. For all we know this limited system could be a lot less limiting than we think and be something we enjoy. As a different kind of content that does break the mold.
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    Akio Foxx
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    Siren
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    Machinist Lv 100
    As for the current battle system not being broken.. ask dark knights how they felt after warriors got buffed in 4.2.. go ask a machinist how they’ve felt this entire expansion as they’ve been forced to compete with casters because bard has completely pushed them out of the physical ranged meta.. or white mages after the astro buffs.. they have a hard time properly balancing the jobs we have now in a truly effective way.. something that a quick tour of the dps forum threads will show.. so yes let’s add another full meta class they have already admitted they were having trouble figuring out how to balance and see how the salt levels rise when blue mage upsets the delicate caster balance as it is now.
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    King Canadane
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 100
    The game needs more mid-tier solo content. Not less.
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    http://king.canadane.com

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    Jkap Goat
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    Gilgamesh
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    Weaver Lv 80
    Blueage cannot fit into the Trinity system,they learn all type of monster spells including healing spells or tanking spells, and if it does learn lots of healing abilities and tanking abilities, there would be an outcry for nerfs ect.

    I greatly have to disagree with you, this give an opportunity to socialize with other players who are blue mages, helping each other out in the world gathering spells and doing premade parties together to get certain spells from monsters in duegons and trials instead of queuing for a random roulette and having no one speak or say anything as you continue to just do the role your assigned to and finish the dungeons. but with BLU you have to coordinate with your fellow BLUs or other teammates. Especially what spells, Whose going to tank, hybrid ect. So I welcome blue with open arms and can't wait to help my fellow BLUs get spells and do premade parties together.
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    Vavali Vali
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jkap_Goat View Post
    Blueage cannot fit into the Trinity system,they learn all type of monster spells including healing spells or tanking spells, and if it does learn lots of healing abilities and tanking abilities, there would be an outcry for nerfs ect.
    It's a shame Red mage can't fit into the trinity system either, as it is half a melee damage dealer, half a magic damage dealer, and half a healer. It's a shame that we would never see Red Mage for not fitting the traditional mold of the trinity system-

    oh.
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    Juke Fm
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    Behemoth
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    Dark Knight Lv 73
    Quote Originally Posted by Hayshade View Post
    hi
    This is not just a MMORPG THIS IS ALSO A FINAL FANTASY TILTE. you have to have to realized that many people are not here for the MMO part but of the fantasy that comes with final fantasy games. didn't Yoshi p back in ARR period said he wish he could bring blue mage but he didn't know how to make it feel like a true blue mage back in the day. The reason why it's a limited job is maybe they couldn't balance it with in HOLY TRINITY (tank/healer/dps) or that it's limited right now due to it might unbalanced or that they think that Blue mage should be limited cause of it's history in the Final fantasy Titles and people might rage if it doesn't feel like a True blue mage that Red mage wasn't a true red mage (jack of all trades master of none).
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    Does no one else recognize the irony that this is in the DPS forum? People have completely overtaken the DPS subforum with nothing but threads basically complaining that BLU is NOT DPS.
    1) There's no reason to keep making new threads on the same subject.
    2) They clearly don't belong in this subforum.

    Nearly the entire first page of this subforum is currently filled with these threads.
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    Last edited by Gr1mwolf; 11-23-2018 at 02:30 PM.

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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gr1mwolf View Post
    Does no one else recognize the irony that this is in the DPS forum? People have completely overtaken the DPS subforum with nothing but threads basically complaining that BLU is NOT DPS.
    1) There's no reason to keep making new threads on the same subject.
    2) They clearly don't belong in this subforum.

    Nearly the entire first page of this subforum is currently filled with these threads.
    BLU uses magical dps gear, ergo it's probably gonna be classified as a dps no matter what. The complaints also aren't that it's not dps, they're that it's designed with endgame out of mind. Completely different things.

    You're right that there doesn't need to be so many threads about it.
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